Hard warm start
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Hard warm start
I just bought a 96 f-150 with a 5.0, 5 speed standard. It starts great cold and great when it is hot up to a couple min after you shut it off, after about 1o min it cranks over a little longer and then starts if I wait about half an hour it cranks over for about 5-10 sec then starts and puffs black(over fuel?) I checked the fuel pressure with the engine cold it is 38 psi and 34 psi while running.Fuel psi increases to about 41 psi with the fpr unplugged. The fuel psi bleeds off about 6 psi in 1 min, and in 10 min it bleeds off about 25 psi, eventually it will go to zero, Is this normal? I have changed the ECT, new plugs cap and rotor and wires. Cleaned the MAF, new airfiler.I have no codes, if i do a koer test it comes up with a p0411 ( air pump). Any ideas? Other then the hard hot start the truck runs great.
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A cold engine requires more gas to start, and I suppose some of the gas evaporates and a little may get past the piston rings into your motor oil. That's the way I imagine it. Hopefully you will get more replies to confirm or deny what I'm saying.
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I had the warm hard start issue a while ago. Does it start quicker if you start it with full throttle after that 1/2 hr delay? (this shuts the injectors off) If so, then check codes. I had an ECT sensor issue that told the computer to run rich as in a cold start but was too rich for the warm engine and basically floods the engine. Code 118 was my problem. Changed the sensor and it instantly ran perfectly and no more warm start issues.
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So i figured out that after it hot I can shut it off, then bleed the psi off of the fuel rail. When i come back in 30 min there is about 10 psi of pressure that has built back up, when I go to bleed this off there is a bunch of pressured air/fuel. I have to cycle the pump numerous times to get all the air out(and yes it's pressurized air/gas ). Even if I dont bleed the initial psi off when I shut it off, when I come back there is all this pressurized air/gas that comes out ????
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So i figured out that after it hot I can shut it off, then bleed the psi off of the fuel rail. When i come back in 30 min there is about 10 psi of pressure that has built back up, when I go to bleed this off there is a bunch of pressured air/fuel. I have to cycle the pump numerous times to get all the air out(and yes it's pressurized air/gas ). Even if I dont bleed the initial psi off when I shut it off, when I come back there is all this pressurized air/gas that comes out ????
I think that may be the gas in the line expanding due to the heat of the engine...not something to worry about I think...I would go with a tune up, check the air filter too
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11-18-2012 08:22 PM