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Hotshot
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Something else to top off the relays, I like GE Nighthawk (not sport), Sylvania Xtravision (easily found at most stores), Phillips Xtreme Power or Vision Plus. These are all clear bulbs with different filiments and gas mixture. They are a little brighter. They are a tad brighter than regular bulbs. Just don't buy any blue coated bulbs, this includes Silverstar and all that stuff called hyper white etc. Those actually reduce the amount of usable light slightly, since the more yellow light is filtered out.
pedant
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From: EXTREME southwest CT
85 & 86 are the pulldown, 30 is power, 87A is normally closed, and 87 is the one that becomes fed when the pulldown is energized.
Here, let me Google up a couple of diagrams for you...
Here are the pinouts:
Regular SPDT relay
This is what you need to make it work.
One with 2 #87 terminals. SPST
Notice the other 87 is not in the center between the 85 & 86 terminals.
pedant
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No, it is the difference between a Single Pole Single Throw relay with dual output, and a Single Pole Double Throw relay.
The terminals are labeled by convention.
It is Bosch who started with these pinout numbers way back when...
The terminals are labeled by convention.
It is Bosch who started with these pinout numbers way back when...
pedant
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From: EXTREME southwest CT
No, but that is the most common relay available.
I was pointing that out...
The pinouts are similar, but NOT the same.
I was pointing that out...
Originally Posted by ArdWrknTrk
I see in that writeup he mentions two #87 terminals.
Don't make the mistake of confusing 87 & 87A (which is NC, and open when the relay is energized)
Don't make the mistake of confusing 87 & 87A (which is NC, and open when the relay is energized)
Tuned
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Something else to top off the relays, I like GE Nighthawk (not sport), Sylvania Xtravision (easily found at most stores), Phillips Xtreme Power or Vision Plus. These are all clear bulbs with different filiments and gas mixture. They are a little brighter. They are a tad brighter than regular bulbs. Just don't buy any blue coated bulbs, this includes Silverstar and all that stuff called hyper white etc. Those actually reduce the amount of usable light slightly, since the more yellow light is filtered out.
If you go online and research all of these type of "performance" bulbs, you will find that there is one universal complaint: bulb life. In some cases it can be 75% lower than standard halogen bulbs (ie 200 hour bulb life vs. 800-1000).
It's an individual decision whether the additional brightness (and significantly higher cost) is worth the tradeoff of the much shorter life.
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I have just "burned" through a set of the Nighthawks ($40/<acronym title="Page Ranking">pr</acronym> retail, ouch) in 13 months, and both bulbs burnt out within a week of each other.
If you go online and research all of these type of "performance" bulbs, you will find that there is one universal complaint: bulb life. In some cases it can be 75% lower than standard halogen bulbs (ie 200 hour bulb life vs. 800-1000).
It's an individual decision whether the additional brightness (and significantly higher cost) is worth the tradeoff of the much shorter life.
If you go online and research all of these type of "performance" bulbs, you will find that there is one universal complaint: bulb life. In some cases it can be 75% lower than standard halogen bulbs (ie 200 hour bulb life vs. 800-1000).
It's an individual decision whether the additional brightness (and significantly higher cost) is worth the tradeoff of the much shorter life.
I don't know what the rated hours is on the Xtravision or regular Nighthawk. The XV's are cheap though, so its not a big deal.
The blue coated bulbs really do have much shorter life spans. The coating absorbs heat.
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