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Tranny Problems
Hey all, I recently picked up a '93 E-150 van and it has a tranny issue I am hoping to work out.
First, the van is a 4.9l, has 87,xxx on it, and the tag on the Tranny says, F2UP-DC.
My problem is, the tranny slips when you are first starting out from a stop. When you give the van a little gas, it revs, then a couple seconds later the tranny catches and you will start going. It happens in all gears, including reverse. Once you start moving, all seems fine. So obviously my question is, where to go from here? I was looking to use the van as a work vehicle, and don't want to spend anything more than I have to. I am considering swapping in the same thing from a salvage yard, but wasn't sure if that is the best route. Or if I can [easily] swap in a stronger one? I am not much of a mechanic, so take that in to account with your replies.
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First, the van is a 4.9l, has 87,xxx on it, and the tag on the Tranny says, F2UP-DC.
My problem is, the tranny slips when you are first starting out from a stop. When you give the van a little gas, it revs, then a couple seconds later the tranny catches and you will start going. It happens in all gears, including reverse. Once you start moving, all seems fine. So obviously my question is, where to go from here? I was looking to use the van as a work vehicle, and don't want to spend anything more than I have to. I am considering swapping in the same thing from a salvage yard, but wasn't sure if that is the best route. Or if I can [easily] swap in a stronger one? I am not much of a mechanic, so take that in to account with your replies.
Brew
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This may sound like cliche -- have you changed the transm fluid and filter yet? Is the OD button (at the end of the shifter) flashing?
You would have the I6 version of the '92-93 E4OD transmission. At that low low mileage the 19-year old van must have been sitting a lot, which does not mean very good things for the transmission.
Yes, you could swap one in, but these transm are at least 15 years old, and I am not sure what condition the donor transm will be in.
I would also budget about $ 2000 for a worst-case overhaul.
You would have the I6 version of the '92-93 E4OD transmission. At that low low mileage the 19-year old van must have been sitting a lot, which does not mean very good things for the transmission.
Yes, you could swap one in, but these transm are at least 15 years old, and I am not sure what condition the donor transm will be in.
I would also budget about $ 2000 for a worst-case overhaul.
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This may sound like cliche -- have you changed the transm fluid and filter yet? Is the OD button (at the end of the shifter) flashing?
haven't done the flush yet, didn't want to spend the money if most likely it wouldn't work. The OD button seems to work fine, but I have only had the van for a day or two. The fluid does look fine, and no smell?
You would have the I6 version of the '92-93 E4OD transmission. At that low low mileage the 19-year old van must have been sitting a lot, which does not mean very good things for the transmission.
Well, there is moss growing around the mirrors, is that a bad sign?
Yes, you could swap one in, but these transm are at least 15 years old, and I am not sure what condition the donor transm will be in.
Kinda what I am worried about.
I would also budget about $ 2000 for a worst-case overhaul.
Well, to be honest, I won't pay that. I will bring it to the junk yard before I drop that much in to it. That is 3 times what I paid for the van. There are a few around on car-parts for around $250 w/warranty so I might go that route see how it is.
haven't done the flush yet, didn't want to spend the money if most likely it wouldn't work. The OD button seems to work fine, but I have only had the van for a day or two. The fluid does look fine, and no smell?
You would have the I6 version of the '92-93 E4OD transmission. At that low low mileage the 19-year old van must have been sitting a lot, which does not mean very good things for the transmission.
Well, there is moss growing around the mirrors, is that a bad sign?
Yes, you could swap one in, but these transm are at least 15 years old, and I am not sure what condition the donor transm will be in.
Kinda what I am worried about.
I would also budget about $ 2000 for a worst-case overhaul.
Well, to be honest, I won't pay that. I will bring it to the junk yard before I drop that much in to it. That is 3 times what I paid for the van. There are a few around on car-parts for around $250 w/warranty so I might go that route see how it is.
But it is in pretty nice shape for it's age, so if I can fix it reasonably, I wouldn't mind getting it up and running.
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Start with flushing out the tranny fluid and get some fresh fluid in there (and a filter). This is about $ 40-50. There is no sure diagnosis without opening the transm. You would rather spend $ 40 than spend $ 250 plus a lot of labor and find out fluid was the culprit.
Since you have slippage in all gears, it sounds like fluid is not doing its job.
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Just an update. I dropped the pan and the fluid looked brand new. There was some sludge on the magnet, not a lot, but if the fluid is actually brand new, then too much.
I installed a new filter and put new fluid in that I lost in the pan, and now the van will not move at all. Used to rev for a second or two, then drive ok, now just nothing? Any ideas?
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I installed a new filter and put new fluid in that I lost in the pan, and now the van will not move at all. Used to rev for a second or two, then drive ok, now just nothing? Any ideas?
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Be absolutely sure you have the correct amount of fluid in the trans, the van dipsticks are long and can be misleading. low fluid = no drive.
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I was having a hard time reading the dipstick, it was covered and no matter what I did, I couldn't get a good handle on the level. Could you tell me roughly how much fluid is in the pan on a '93 E150 doing just a filter? It is a F2UP-DC tranny, and has a 20 bolt pan? thanks for the help.
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Ok, thanks, I got from 4-7quarts depending on what page i was reading. I put 4 in and just kept getting goofy readings on the dipstick. Where parts of the dipstick were red, and other parts completely dry, so I wasn't sure if I didn't have enough and was just getting splash results? Thanks
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Four quarts isn't enough. It can vary from trans to trans, but just dropping the pan should take 5-8 quarts. The dipstick will pick up residual fluid from the tube which makes it very hard to read. Letting it sit for 5 minutes after pouring fluid in it makes it easier.
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