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Dec 11, 2011 | 10:09 PM

#31

Lead Head

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From what I've found, 91+ Federal Emissions EEC-IVs should be able to data-stream.

My experience with data-stream on EEC-IV has only been limited to half ton and lesser vehicles though.

Dec 12, 2011 | 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by crewcabfan

see? maybe it was just a bad starter all along

if you end up replacing it don't forget to clean the battery ground cable where it bolts to the block.

not just quite yet now my starter wont even crank the engine so idk what's going on now. Can someone give me the rundown of how the starting system works in these to c if im missing anything i know this system but refresh me plz. May vid or link that explains how it work.

Dec 12, 2011 | 03:29 AM

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Tell me if i got this right?

Dec 12, 2011 | 03:31 AM

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jeremy2008

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if im right on that that means that my starter get power but will not turn over which means my starter is bad an i get to yell at the guys that rebuilt my starter like 4 dang days ago.

Dec 12, 2011 | 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jeremy2008

Tell me if i got this right?

that is correct, if you jump both studs with some pliers the starter should turn,
if you get nothing possibly the red/blue wire at the starter is not making good contact, usually rebuilders replace solenoids that have spade terminals with thread on connectors i dont know if that was your case.

Dec 12, 2011 | 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Lead Head

From what I've found, 91+ Federal Emissions EEC-IVs should be able to data-stream.

My experience with data-stream on EEC-IV has only been limited to half ton and lesser vehicles though.

I agree with you, but i have seen some 94ish trucks with 4.9 / c6 combo without
data, again i don't know why.
in my truck's case the drivetrain came out of a 92 E350 ,
the ecm # f2tf-12a650-gb and guess what no data, and i have seen this same part # listed for trucks up to 94.

Dec 12, 2011 | 07:02 AM

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Wonder if it's a C6 thing? I had working data-stream on a '93 E-Series 4.9 E4OD.

Dec 12, 2011 | 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Lead Head

Wonder if it's a C6 thing? I had working data-stream on a '93 E-Series 4.9 E4OD.

it could be, I checked my scanner and for that year it lists 2. 4.9 engines: vin code 9 and vin code Y.
also, a search gives me these options for pcms on 4.9 econoline that year.

Elec Cont Unit (ECU), 6-300 (4.9L), (AT), C6, ID F2TF-ANB
Elec Cont Unit (ECU), 6-300 (4.9L), (AT), C6, ID F2TF-TA
Elec Cont Unit (ECU), 6-300 (4.9L), (AT), C6, ID F2TF-TB
Elec Cont Unit (ECU), 6-300 (4.9L), (AT), C6, ID F2TF-TC
Elec Cont Unit (ECU), 6-300 (4.9L), (AT), C6, ID F2TF-TD
Elec Cont Unit (ECU), 6-300 (4.9L), (AT), C6, ID F3TF-ADA
Elec Cont Unit (ECU), 6-300 (4.9L), (AT), C6, ID F3TF-ADB
Elec Cont Unit (ECU), 6-300 (4.9L), (AT), E4OD, Calif, ID F2TF-UA
Elec Cont Unit (ECU), 6-300 (4.9L), (AT), E4OD, Calif, ID F3TF-ACA
Elec Cont Unit (ECU), 6-300 (4.9L), (AT), E4OD, Calif, ID F3TF-ACB
Elec Cont Unit (ECU), 6-300 (4.9L), (AT), E4OD, Fed, ID F2TF-VA
Elec Cont Unit (ECU), 6-300 (4.9L), (AT), E4OD, Fed, ID F2TF-VB
Elec Cont Unit (ECU), 6-300 (4.9L), (AT), E4OD, Fed, ID F3TF-ABA
Elec Cont Unit (ECU), 6-300 (4.9L), (AT), E4OD, Fed, ID F3TF-ABB .

so again my only point is that not every truck older than 96 gives data.