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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 01:30 AM
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I have a 93 f-250 460 for the first start up of the day it takes for ever to crank over tho it cranks a normal speed then closer to the end before it starts up it starts to slow down on cranking then fires up. But when it fires up i have to let it warm up or give it very little gas or it will hesitate or die. What do u guys think i should test. I know i have spark an i know i have fuel because it runs an drives fine when its warm i cant put my foot to the floor an it moves.
ps ill get a vid up next morning when i go to start it,
 
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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 06:07 PM
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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 06:12 PM
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Sounds to me like you need a new battery and the timing checked.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 09:32 PM
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yea i think the guy that bumped up my timing went to far. I had it bumped up so i can run perminum gas. its at 14* degrees
 
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Old Nov 3, 2011 | 07:15 PM
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Could be a faulty engine coolant temperature sensor. Try replacing it.

Also note that adjusting base timing on these engines will also alter injector timing, which could be part of your issue when cold.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 03:50 AM
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yea thats what i thought ill test it before i replace it hate to spend money for nothing. wish it was easy to fix stuff like this.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 05:03 AM
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You might want to check your fuel pressure, particularly the leakdown rate. One other thing, see if you can stick a noid light on the injectors. Engine Coolant Temperature sensor could also be a cause. The best diagnostic tool for this could be a good scanner to read live data while this is occuring.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 04:06 AM
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how do i test the leak down rate? an i found out some thing new my tac moves up an down a lot when idling what could cause that.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 09:17 AM
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how do i test the leak down rate? an i found out some thing new my tac moves up an down a lot when idling what could cause that.
Once you have checked the fuel pressure, shut the engine off and watch the gauge. I believe it is supposed to hold pressure for 30 min. Biggest thing is see if it drops off rapidly, this is an indication that something is leaking.

Idle surge is probably caused by a dirty or bad Idle Air Controller. On a 460 it is on top of the plenum inlet housing below the throttle body.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 12:55 AM
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Thx for the help but im still stuck it cranks normal now but it take for ever to crank over. The other new thing is some times it dies while drive or idling but will start right back up when i turn the key off an crank it over again.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 01:02 AM
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Have you checked fuel pressure?
 
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 01:36 AM
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Not yet im a just looking for idea to test this weekend i am going to test.

1. engine temp sensor
2. fuel pressure with key to the on position an running an leak down test.
what els can i test fill up my list.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 10:22 AM
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As mentioned, dont forget to test your battery voltage both at rest and running.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 01:54 AM
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batt an alt is fine both brand new i got a 3g alt an red top
 
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Old Dec 2, 2011 | 01:55 AM
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any other idea to test this weekend?
 
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