Wobble Cure? VIDEO
Lead Driver
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From: Gilbert
I haven't tried airing down, and doubt I will. I run it at the tire (and Fords 65fr/~70rr) specifications, if it doesn't work there, then it's on them.
If whatever they come up with doesn't work, I'll see what they say about goin' halvsies on the Rancho setup!
If whatever they come up with doesn't work, I'll see what they say about goin' halvsies on the Rancho setup!
Cross-Country
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my f-350 6.7 diesel, 4x4, cc, dually, kr, with 3.73 gears & 17 inch wheels does it also. i seem to notice it more with the milage going up. i am at 14.5k miles.
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I have a, probably almost unique, opportunity. I've owned a 2011 with FX4 and drove it 6000+ miles and then traded it in on another 2011 that happened to not have FX4.
Both trucks were/are complete stock with no lift. In my case I did not/have not noticed any shimmy in either truck. Both towed my 35' travel trailer with no issues. The second truck is a CC short bed and doesn't feel any different than the first did with a CC long bed.
Is the shimmy more prone to occur with lifted trucks?
(PS. The pic is still of my first truck.)
Both trucks were/are complete stock with no lift. In my case I did not/have not noticed any shimmy in either truck. Both towed my 35' travel trailer with no issues. The second truck is a CC short bed and doesn't feel any different than the first did with a CC long bed.
Is the shimmy more prone to occur with lifted trucks?
(PS. The pic is still of my first truck.)
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Joined: Dec 2002
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I have a, probably almost unique, opportunity. I've owned a 2011 with FX4 and drove it 6000+ miles and then traded it in on another 2011 that happened to not have FX4.
Both trucks were/are complete stock with no lift. In my case I did not/have not noticed any shimmy in either truck. Both towed my 35' travel trailer with no issues. The second truck is a CC short bed and doesn't feel any different than the first did with a CC long bed.
Is the shimmy more prone to occur with lifted trucks?
(PS. The pic is still of my first truck.)
Both trucks were/are complete stock with no lift. In my case I did not/have not noticed any shimmy in either truck. Both towed my 35' travel trailer with no issues. The second truck is a CC short bed and doesn't feel any different than the first did with a CC long bed.
Is the shimmy more prone to occur with lifted trucks?
(PS. The pic is still of my first truck.)
Tuned
Joined: Aug 2007
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From: CO Mnts
Epic,
If you wouldn't mind...could you give a history of what you have done to your steering/suspension, including alignments? At one time you had mentioned changing the alignment to correct what you felt was the PS over-assist. I have not done that yet, planning to but work has kept me sooo busy (in fact writing this from Sao Paulo, Brazil), as I also feel the PS over assists and have experienced some strange events with the steering over non-perfect road conditions. Certainly, nothing dangerous, just unexpected and strange. I'm curious if a stock F350's steering/suspension would better benefit from new shocks and dual stabilizers before making alignment adjustments. I would still plan on getting an alignment done, just not sure if I would veer from the OEM alignment specs.
Thanks again for your '11 SD dedication and willingness to share the info.
2000silverbullet indicated in this thread his F350's suspension/steering/wheels/tires are completely stock and he posted the second video with the wobble.
Both videos make me wonder if Michelin/Continental would start denying claims for premature tire wear and start pointing the finger at Ford? Seems that maybe Ford needs to address this issue???
If you wouldn't mind...could you give a history of what you have done to your steering/suspension, including alignments? At one time you had mentioned changing the alignment to correct what you felt was the PS over-assist. I have not done that yet, planning to but work has kept me sooo busy (in fact writing this from Sao Paulo, Brazil), as I also feel the PS over assists and have experienced some strange events with the steering over non-perfect road conditions. Certainly, nothing dangerous, just unexpected and strange. I'm curious if a stock F350's steering/suspension would better benefit from new shocks and dual stabilizers before making alignment adjustments. I would still plan on getting an alignment done, just not sure if I would veer from the OEM alignment specs.
Thanks again for your '11 SD dedication and willingness to share the info.
2000silverbullet indicated in this thread his F350's suspension/steering/wheels/tires are completely stock and he posted the second video with the wobble.
Both videos make me wonder if Michelin/Continental would start denying claims for premature tire wear and start pointing the finger at Ford? Seems that maybe Ford needs to address this issue???
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Epic,
If you wouldn't mind...could you give a history of what you have done to your steering/suspension, including alignments? At one time you had mentioned changing the alignment to correct what you felt was the PS over-assist. I have not done that yet, planning to but work has kept me sooo busy (in fact writing this from Sao Paulo, Brazil), as I also feel the PS over assists and have experienced some strange events with the steering over non-perfect road conditions. Certainly, nothing dangerous, just unexpected and strange. I'm curious if a stock F350's steering/suspension would better benefit from new shocks and dual stabilizers before making alignment adjustments. I would still plan on getting an alignment done, just not sure if I would veer from the OEM alignment specs.
Thanks again for your '11 SD dedication and willingness to share the info.
2000silverbullet indicated in this thread his F350's suspension/steering/wheels/tires are completely stock and he posted the second video with the wobble.
Both videos make me wonder if Michelin/Continental would start denying claims for premature tire wear and start pointing the finger at Ford? Seems that maybe Ford needs to address this issue???
If you wouldn't mind...could you give a history of what you have done to your steering/suspension, including alignments? At one time you had mentioned changing the alignment to correct what you felt was the PS over-assist. I have not done that yet, planning to but work has kept me sooo busy (in fact writing this from Sao Paulo, Brazil), as I also feel the PS over assists and have experienced some strange events with the steering over non-perfect road conditions. Certainly, nothing dangerous, just unexpected and strange. I'm curious if a stock F350's steering/suspension would better benefit from new shocks and dual stabilizers before making alignment adjustments. I would still plan on getting an alignment done, just not sure if I would veer from the OEM alignment specs.
Thanks again for your '11 SD dedication and willingness to share the info.
2000silverbullet indicated in this thread his F350's suspension/steering/wheels/tires are completely stock and he posted the second video with the wobble.
Both videos make me wonder if Michelin/Continental would start denying claims for premature tire wear and start pointing the finger at Ford? Seems that maybe Ford needs to address this issue???
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Post Fiend
Joined: Apr 2004
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From: North of Salt Lake City
If you wouldn't mind...could you give a history of what you have done to your steering/suspension, including alignments? At one time you had mentioned changing the alignment to correct what you felt was the PS over-assist. I have not done that yet, planning to but work has kept me sooo busy (in fact writing this from Sao Paulo, Brazil), as I also feel the PS over assists and have experienced some strange events with the steering over non-perfect road conditions. Certainly, nothing dangerous, just unexpected and strange. I'm curious if a stock F350's steering/suspension would better benefit from new shocks and dual stabilizers before making alignment adjustments. I would still plan on getting an alignment done, just not sure if I would veer from the OEM alignment specs.
It's clear that different people are experiencing this to different degrees. There are so many variables (including stacked tollerances)
it very difficult to diagnose generally. I'd just say that if a person wants to improve the steering feel to do it. There's good options out there.
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how much better/ smoother is the ride with the 9000's?? does it get rid of the wheel hop going over bumps? iv have noticed this on my truck and if the 9000's took care of it for you, i may be doing this to mine. sorry if this question is answered in this thread, i just dont feel like reading all 4 pages of replies only to find no answer haha
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Fleet Mechanic
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From: Hot Springs
Epic another great job! I just went and ordered the same setup as you as we are running the same setup tire/leveling kit... I was surprized at the amount of wheel movement,did you leave your stock steering stabalizer intact?
I sure hope Ford is watching and upgrades the shocks on these expensive trucks.
I sure hope Ford is watching and upgrades the shocks on these expensive trucks.
Tuned
Joined: Aug 2007
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From: CO Mnts
I put a two inch level on the front purely for aesthetic reasons. That zero'd out my cater so I had it aligned to restore it. Made all the difference. Over the last year though and largley due to all the conversation about death wobble, I started to pay attention to the front end. That's when the wobbling became an issue for me. So I put the camera on the fender and whalaa! Found something that I could work on. The new shocks and stabilizer have created a nice and firm steering feel and overall ride.
I would like to be a fly on the wall to see Ford's reaction to those videos. Sad really that maybe an extra $100 - $200 extra cost per build to Ford could save them some grief over this but I do still like my truck a lot and have no regrets buying it. At least this is a reasonable expense and not difficult enough to warrant a professional mechanic.
Laughing Gas
Joined: Aug 2010
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From: Kentucky
Epic, I read over in TDS that Rancho told a owner that the truck had to be raised 2" for this kit to work. Do you think there will be a problem with my stock truck and this setup? Also what about this notching the adjusting arm on the drag link? Can you take a picture of your passenger mounting spot in detail so I do it right?
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Joined: Jan 2011
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From: Washington, IL
[quote=EpicCowlick;10661853]
Brian, funny. So the Bilsteins didn't take care of the problem by themselves? That's good to know. It seems like these trucks just need upgraded shocks AND stabilizers to completely solve the wobble.
Oh yeah, I'm an FTE junkie also and going on 48 hours without buying anything for the truck...
I ordered my Rancho dual steering stabilizers Wed night and Fed Ex dropped them on my door Saturday morning. Busy all day Saturday but was able to sneak out before church this morning and install them. Finally went for a drive tonight - found every pothole and bump I could find.
Wow what a difference...no wobble over bumps or potholes. Firmer steering - which I like and the truck should have from factory.
Of all my mods this one and the speaker upgrades are probably my least amount of money and best money spent.
Baseline for everyone:
- F350 CC FX4 Camper Package (1 up on front spring) Michelin 18" LTX/AT2
- Bilstein 5160's - reduced the rear end bounce/firmed up front end (OEM Ranchos are pathetic)
- 2" lift (increased the "bounce steer" - almost dangerous)
- Did alignment & positive castor (eliminated bounce steer - then I started to notice steering wobble)
- Installed the dual steering stabilizer Rancho RS98510 --> problem resolved!!!
The truck no handles like I want it to - "supposed to"...
Again thanks Lexustbs for ID'ing wobble and Epic for problem solving!!!
Brian
Brian, funny. So the Bilsteins didn't take care of the problem by themselves? That's good to know. It seems like these trucks just need upgraded shocks AND stabilizers to completely solve the wobble.
Oh yeah, I'm an FTE junkie also and going on 48 hours without buying anything for the truck...
Wow what a difference...no wobble over bumps or potholes. Firmer steering - which I like and the truck should have from factory.
Of all my mods this one and the speaker upgrades are probably my least amount of money and best money spent.
Baseline for everyone:
- F350 CC FX4 Camper Package (1 up on front spring) Michelin 18" LTX/AT2
- Bilstein 5160's - reduced the rear end bounce/firmed up front end (OEM Ranchos are pathetic)
- 2" lift (increased the "bounce steer" - almost dangerous)
- Did alignment & positive castor (eliminated bounce steer - then I started to notice steering wobble)
- Installed the dual steering stabilizer Rancho RS98510 --> problem resolved!!!
The truck no handles like I want it to - "supposed to"...
Again thanks Lexustbs for ID'ing wobble and Epic for problem solving!!!
Brian