Wobble Cure? VIDEO
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Wobble Cure? VIDEO
Here's what I've done to fix my steering wobble:
Installing Rancho Steering Stabilizers & RS9000XL Shocks Ford Super Duty - YouTube
Installing Rancho Steering Stabilizers & RS9000XL Shocks Ford Super Duty - YouTube
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I'm pretty sure there will be some upgrades available to the OEM ball joints in the next year or so. That, and a Bilstein on the drag link will reduce the wobble to just a bad memory.
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I had the Rancho 9000's on my Jeep (with the remote control) and loved the setup. When I was towing, a push of a button, and the shocks became real firm. I was very spoiled!
I guess the factory Ranchos have really been dumbed down for mass consumption.
Nice vid, Epic. Do you have part numbers?
It seems your front end has a leveling kit, so your front Rancho replacements would be longer than stock? And it looked like they came with polyurethane bushings?
Did you look into replacing the stabilizer end links with poly bushings? Anyone make 'em?
So about $600 for the whole thing? And probably a few hundred extra for the air compressor and remote?
I have a 2 gallon air tank, and I wonder if their new remote control could be adapted to use that, so I can use a better air compressor and not duplicate systems?
I guess the factory Ranchos have really been dumbed down for mass consumption.
Nice vid, Epic. Do you have part numbers?
It seems your front end has a leveling kit, so your front Rancho replacements would be longer than stock? And it looked like they came with polyurethane bushings?
Did you look into replacing the stabilizer end links with poly bushings? Anyone make 'em?
So about $600 for the whole thing? And probably a few hundred extra for the air compressor and remote?
I have a 2 gallon air tank, and I wonder if their new remote control could be adapted to use that, so I can use a better air compressor and not duplicate systems?
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I had the Rancho 9000's on my Jeep (with the remote control) and loved the setup. When I was towing, a push of a button, and the shocks became real firm. I was very spoiled!
I guess the factory Ranchos have really been dumbed down for mass consumption.
Nice vid, Epic. Do you have part numbers?
It seems your front end has a leveling kit, so your front Rancho replacements would be longer than stock? And it looked like they came with polyurethane bushings?
Did you look into replacing the stabilizer end links with poly bushings? Anyone make 'em?
So about $600 for the whole thing? And probably a few hundred extra for the air compressor and remote?
I have a 2 gallon air tank, and I wonder if their new remote control could be adapted to use that, so I can use a better air compressor and not duplicate systems?
I guess the factory Ranchos have really been dumbed down for mass consumption.
Nice vid, Epic. Do you have part numbers?
It seems your front end has a leveling kit, so your front Rancho replacements would be longer than stock? And it looked like they came with polyurethane bushings?
Did you look into replacing the stabilizer end links with poly bushings? Anyone make 'em?
So about $600 for the whole thing? And probably a few hundred extra for the air compressor and remote?
I have a 2 gallon air tank, and I wonder if their new remote control could be adapted to use that, so I can use a better air compressor and not duplicate systems?
Front - RS999043 (2 1/2 inches longer to accommodate the 2 inch level)
Rear - RS999254
The poly bushings are nice and I'd love to switch out all the OEM rubber. Don't know if it's available yet. I'm probably not going to spring for the remote unless there's a compelling ROI argument. But it would be cool... :-)
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So here's the question...why isn't Ford dealing with this as a warranty or design issue?
Epic, did your wobble start at a mileage or was it there from day one?
I used a generic, HD, single stabilizer on my 05 and it corrected this as well, but steering effort was noticeably increased. Can you comment on that?
Thanks for the time you spent on this. Good stuff.
Epic, did your wobble start at a mileage or was it there from day one?
I used a generic, HD, single stabilizer on my 05 and it corrected this as well, but steering effort was noticeably increased. Can you comment on that?
Thanks for the time you spent on this. Good stuff.
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So here's the question...why isn't Ford dealing with this as a warranty or design issue?
Epic, did your wobble start at a mileage or was it there from day one?
I used a generic, HD, single stabilizer on my 05 and it corrected this as well, but steering effort was noticeably increased. Can you comment on that?
Thanks for the time you spent on this. Good stuff.
Epic, did your wobble start at a mileage or was it there from day one?
I used a generic, HD, single stabilizer on my 05 and it corrected this as well, but steering effort was noticeably increased. Can you comment on that?
Thanks for the time you spent on this. Good stuff.
I suspect that Ford will probably address the spec on those shocks now. It's clear they were engineered with little or no over-margin and that shows pretty clearly in slow motion. I'm pretty sure the wobble has always been there. It's really been all this talk on the forums that peaked my interest and made me do something about it.
And yes, there is more resistance in the steering wheel. Pretty much what you would expect from the stabilizers. I actually prefer it as I always thought the steering was over-assisted as it was. What I don't know is what effect this will have long term on the power steering pump.
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To your first question, I can't really fault Ford on this item. I'm the one who put on the lift and the bigger tires. That's a lot of extra weight to control when it gets thrown around in a pot hole. Philosophically, Ford engineers parts to certain tolerances and for the most part, this truck is over-engineered in just about every way. That certainly costs money and even a couple bucks on a certain part has to be justified as to whether the market will get value or will be willing to pay for it. The Ford is already the most expensive of the big three and a couple of dollars here and there and there can add up to a real competitive disadvantage. It has to be a tough balance.
I suspect that Ford will probably address the spec on those shocks now. It's clear they were engineered with little or no over-margin and that shows pretty clearly in slow motion. I'm pretty sure the wobble has always been there. It's really been all this talk on the forums that peaked my interest and made me do something about it.
And yes, there is more resistance in the steering wheel. Pretty much what you would expect from the stabilizers. I actually prefer it as I always thought the steering was over-assisted as it was. What I don't know is what effect this will have long term on the power steering pump.
I suspect that Ford will probably address the spec on those shocks now. It's clear they were engineered with little or no over-margin and that shows pretty clearly in slow motion. I'm pretty sure the wobble has always been there. It's really been all this talk on the forums that peaked my interest and made me do something about it.
And yes, there is more resistance in the steering wheel. Pretty much what you would expect from the stabilizers. I actually prefer it as I always thought the steering was over-assisted as it was. What I don't know is what effect this will have long term on the power steering pump.
If they offered it, I certainly would be interested in a premium line that would include levelers, premium shocks, airbags, etc.
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Somehow I missed that your truck was lifted. My bad.
I wondered about the PS pump on my 05, but in 4 years there were no issues.
I agree that the PS is overboosted in these trucks. A speed based dynamic boost system would make a big difference, but for now I'll add the heavier stabs.
I wondered about the PS pump on my 05, but in 4 years there were no issues.
I agree that the PS is overboosted in these trucks. A speed based dynamic boost system would make a big difference, but for now I'll add the heavier stabs.
To your first question, I can't really fault Ford on this item. I'm the one who put on the lift and the bigger tires. That's a lot of extra weight to control when it gets thrown around in a pot hole. Philosophically, Ford engineers parts to certain tolerances and for the most part, this truck is over-engineered in just about every way. That certainly costs money and even a couple bucks on a certain part has to be justified as to whether the market will get value or will be willing to pay for it. The Ford is already the most expensive of the big three and a couple of dollars here and there and there can add up to a real competitive disadvantage. It has to be a tough balance.
I suspect that Ford will probably address the spec on those shocks now. It's clear they were engineered with little or no over-margin and that shows pretty clearly in slow motion. I'm pretty sure the wobble has always been there. It's really been all this talk on the forums that peaked my interest and made me do something about it.
And yes, there is more resistance in the steering wheel. Pretty much what you would expect from the stabilizers. I actually prefer it as I always thought the steering was over-assisted as it was. What I don't know is what effect this will have long term on the power steering pump.
I suspect that Ford will probably address the spec on those shocks now. It's clear they were engineered with little or no over-margin and that shows pretty clearly in slow motion. I'm pretty sure the wobble has always been there. It's really been all this talk on the forums that peaked my interest and made me do something about it.
And yes, there is more resistance in the steering wheel. Pretty much what you would expect from the stabilizers. I actually prefer it as I always thought the steering was over-assisted as it was. What I don't know is what effect this will have long term on the power steering pump.
#15
Great video and information.
Surprisingly, coming from my '05 to this truck, the steering seems much tighter and more responsive in the 2011. The front end of the '05 was fine and I never had the dreaded death wobble. The ball joints and all other components were in very good shape when I traded it.
Maybe it's just the newness of this truck. I guess time will tell.
Surprisingly, coming from my '05 to this truck, the steering seems much tighter and more responsive in the 2011. The front end of the '05 was fine and I never had the dreaded death wobble. The ball joints and all other components were in very good shape when I traded it.
Maybe it's just the newness of this truck. I guess time will tell.