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Old May 27, 2011 | 06:53 AM
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New Super Duty owner, and new forum member. I found this site to be a great source of information and now need your help to figure out a dilemma. I have a 2011 F-250 Supercab Short Bed with 6.2L gas engine and 3.73 rear end.

My question is in regards to payload. According to the ford website my truck should have a GVWR of 9400#'s leaving it with 2710#'s of payload. This number of course will drop once I add in my options, my passengers, and such. With that said I found a Ford site that list the base curb weight of my vehicle, that is supercab, shortbed as 6690 before options. On this site I also found a weight list for each particular option. When I crunched the numbers it came to 250#'s in options. This gave me a good starting point in figuring out my payload. I am trying to figure out how much 5th wheel I can handle.
I checked the B-Pillar in the truck yesterday and found that my GVWR is in fact 10000#. I figured that this was great, I can add another 600 to my payload. But when going to the Ford site, scratch that, the Ford site did not list my truck as possible having 10000# GVWR. I checked the Superduty brochure that I had which had this configuration on it and the payload with the 10000# is 20#'s less than the 9400#. At this point I am totally confused and would like someone who is in the know to enlighten me on this.

Also, I am aware that to get a true base curb weight I need to go to the scales, and am planning on doing that but this does not seem to be a scale issue. This is a difference in the payload ratings in the Ford specs. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Old May 27, 2011 | 07:08 AM
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Do this...go to catscale.com. Find one, pay $9.50 I think it is now and get your truck on the scales. They will do each axle and then the combined.

Put what your normally carry in the truck to include a full tank of fuel. Quit the guessing games.

Then what the door cert and your registration say for gross is it unless you up your registration. Mine is at 12K.

Only other concern is axle ratings and tires. Axle rating are on the door piller. Tires, look at the sidewall and it will list the max load for each tire. That is at max psi keep in mind....not the recommended pressure on the door pillar.
 
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Old May 27, 2011 | 07:27 AM
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Senix, thank you for the reply. I do understand that I need to get real world numbers, and will. But I guess my real question was why Ford would not up the payload rating between 9400 and 10000 #'s. It seems to me that on paper I should have 600#'s more, on paper, then the 9400.
 
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Old May 27, 2011 | 07:37 AM
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Don't know why it is different on paper vs your door cert. It is a mystery...what does your window sticker say?

I am really thinking it was an option on your truck.
 
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Old May 27, 2011 | 07:43 AM
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Senix, thank you for the reply. I do understand that I need to get real world numbers, and will. But I guess my real question was why Ford would not up the payload rating between 9400 and 10000 #'s. It seems to me that on paper I should have 600#'s more, on paper, then the 9400.
My wife is gone right now so I can't look in the manual. I can however answer this question for you. Your advertised GVWR is based on unit and configuration. The biggest thing is what gear it has and tires. Look on your pillar and whatever that says your GVWR is that's what it is. That sticker has to tell you the GVWR of your unit. Look in the manual for your GCWR.
 
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Old May 27, 2011 | 07:45 AM
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O.K. that makes sense. Basically, my truck must be 620 #'s heavier than a supercab shortbed with a 9400# rating... Going to the scales this weekend. Thanks again...
 
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BTW...welcome to FTE as well.
 
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Old May 27, 2011 | 11:26 AM
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The sticker on the truck is the one that counts.
 
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Old May 27, 2011 | 12:25 PM
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O.K. that makes sense. Basically, my truck must be 620 #'s heavier than a supercab shortbed with a 9400# rating... Going to the scales this weekend. Thanks again...
The weight of the 2 trucks doesn't influence the gvwr. 9400 lbs is the gvwr. Your gearing and tires changes this. The actual weight of the truck influence the payload. The payload is the sum of the gvwr - the truck's equipt weight. So since there is several options on these trucks you really can't go by website figures. The sticker has the info for you already there.
 
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Old May 27, 2011 | 02:50 PM
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Then what the door cert and your registration say for gross is it unless you up your registration. Mine is at 12K.
Are you saying you can have your GVWR up-ed by DMV/Highway Patrol/Someone else?
 
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Are you saying you can have your GVWR up-ed by DMV/Highway Patrol/Someone else?
I have never heard of that. A vehicle is designed a certain way and the DMV/govt has no way to question that.
 
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Old May 27, 2011 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TreySpooner65
Are you saying you can have your GVWR up-ed by DMV/Highway Patrol/Someone else?
Yes Maryland allows you to up your registration. 6 bucks per 1K.
 
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Old May 27, 2011 | 03:55 PM
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I have never heard of that. A vehicle is designed a certain way and the DMV/govt has no way to question that.
In a way they can. Here in Al. You tag your truck by what it weighs. Under 8k, under 10k and so on. If a state trooper pulls you over and wants to mess w/ you he can weigh you. People plus load. I don't know what the gross is but there's a legal gross for every tag. So if you tag your truck for 8k and if the law allows for 8ks to gross 10k and you grossed 10,500 your over weight.
If you tag it for 10k you at least upped the gross 2k.
A case that happen a week ago. A guy hauling scrap metal got weighed. If he hadn't tagged his truck for 10k he would have been over weight. Even though his trailer was rated and tagged for the weight. Again the state uses the tags to know what your gross can be. What Ford rates your truck at is not a legal rating or loaded point of failure. Ie. My truck has a 8800 gvwr from ford. As it sits with my toolbox it weighs 8k. I have it tagged for 8k btw. I'm known for loading a ton of feed in the back. Hasn't failed yet.
But I know what ur saying and the OP was looking for Fords rating numbers.
 
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Old May 27, 2011 | 04:01 PM
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In a way they can. Here in Al. You tag your truck by what it weighs. Under 8k, under 10k and so on. If a state trooper pulls you over and wants to mess w/ you he can weigh you. People plus load. I don't know what the gross is but there's a legal gross for every tag. So if you tag your truck for 8k and if the law allows for 8ks to gross 10k and you grossed 10,500 your over weight.
If you tag it for 10k you at least upped the gross 2k.
A case that happen a week ago. A guy hauling scrap metal got weighed. If he hadn't tagged his truck for 10k he would have been over weight. Even though his trailer was rated and tagged for the weight. Again the state uses the tags to know what your gross can be. What Ford rates your truck at is not a legal rating or loaded point of failure. Ie. My truck has a 8800 gvwr from ford. As it sits with my toolbox it weighs 8k. I have it tagged for 8k btw. I'm known for loading a ton of feed in the back. Hasn't failed yet.
But I know what ur saying and the OP was looking for Fords rating numbers.
So, someone could take a Ranger and register it for 10K? What are the restrictions? What might be reasonable to one, might not be for another. What enables a certain truck to be rated higher than what the manufacturer denotes?
 
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Trick is not to exceed your axle and tire ratings.
 
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