Can't say for other states, but you can in California.
Also I have been driving 30,000lb bus conversion for 10 years without having CDL.
All the RV are exempt from the driver licensing requirements and you can drive 80,000 lb rig without CDL if it is registered as an RV.
Also farm equipment is having lot exemptions.

 

yeah, California still has the class system correct.

except with a non-commercial Class A, you still can't drive a private semi. It simply allows you to tow a trailer over 10,000# with a class C vehicle as long as it's not for hire.

 

How is CA any more "correct" than any other state.

IMO CA is the most back asswards state in the union. They are the only one that doesn't follow the federal standard for CDL requirements.

 

once again.

The CDL system and the Class system are different.

 

How so?

The Non commercial and commercial classes are the size size vehicle. It's just the use that determines the type of DL needed.

 

That diverts the discussion into what is right with licensing.
Personally I admire CA law that allowed me driving heavy motorhomes without a hassle of upgrading my licence. You might dispute if it is right to let an amateur to get behind a wheel of 45 foot long, 20 tons heavy vehicle without any training, but statistics shows not too many accidents with this configurations.
Pickup towing 5-7000 lb trailers are probably at the top of accidents statistics.
In most other countries the law require commercial license on vehicles over 3.5 tons. I don't think anyone here would like that kind of law?

 

Tagging has a part in it to. If you tag a f250/350 f450/550 with standard, p1, xa/ma, x1, x2 tags for personal/agri use you will not need cdls. If you tag it X3 and above you will no matter the use. Now if truck jumps class "above 12k gvw" then there is exemptions for agri use but not personal.

 

Doesn't CA require a Non com class B for motorhomes over 26k?

 

I have yet to see anywhere that the type of plates determines the type of DL needed.

 

Really? Aight a X3 tag is 26,001-33,000 lbs. Anything under 33k lbs. So when you tag your truck x3 the dmv has no choice but to register you as a commerical truck. Now with this tag on your truck your declaring to gross over 26000lbs. Cdls are required on any combo grossing over 26000. I called the statetrooper post and talked to the trooper that deals with cdls and the dmv in montgomy.
Because of this discussion if it was as it seems I was going to kick it up a notch or 2. My buddy hotshots playground equiment and a few fab pieces. He has his cdls of course. Looks like he doesn't need them. Well I'm thinking about doing some hireing out cause all I need is a commerical tag, busness license/insurance, and dot# and I'm good as long as I stay under 26k and don't register a trailer w/ a gvwr of over 17200 lbs. If I'm caught pulling a trail that has a gvwr over 17200 lbs then I would be in the wrong has my combo would go over the 26000 limit. That code I had mentioned only allowed you to tag your truck by it's actual weight if it weighs less 12k or less and used for personal/agri. When it becomes a cmv it has to be taged p1 which in Ala is 10k and under. I think your getting the point.

 

Isn't your payload rating listed on a the "tire and load rating "door sticker? Mine has one that says cargo and passengers shall not exceed 2745 lbs.

 

Are you repling to me? None of my truckers has had that on the sticker. They all have GVWR, FGAWR, RGAWR.

 

This is just more NYS info when they eliminated the Non-CDL Class C. Taken from the NYSDMV site. Class D is just a regular license.





Changes for Drivers with Current Class D Licenses. A driver with a Class D license can now operate a passenger vehicle, a limited use automobile, or:

• A truck with a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of 26,000 lbs. or less. (Before, a Class D driver could only operate a vehicle with a GVWR of 18,000 lbs. or less.), and
• A truck with a GVWR of 26,000 lbs. or less that tows another vehicle, and the other vehicle has a GVWR of 10,000 lbs. or less, and
• A truck with a GVWR of 26,000 lbs. or less that tows another vehicle that has a GVWR of more than 10,000 lbs., but the gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of the two vehicles together must be 26,000 lbs. or less.

 

Why do the power numbers change on the 6.2l if your gvwr is above 10k?

 

If you are using the correct weight plate for your GVWR then the plate still isn't the part demanding a CDL. THe GVWR/CGVWR is.

Now if you plate it heavier then the GVWR an argument can be made that a CDL would be needed but it would still depend on actual weight.