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02-10-2011, 10:23 PM
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I saw this today might be almost a year old but does help shed some light on why we're all paying more. ULSD wish they had to buy the additive instead of us just my .02.
What's Holding Diesel Back in the U.S.?(1 Comments)
The Cars Are Better Than Ever, but Diesel Is Still a Tough Sell
Published: 05/18/2010 - by Ronald Montoya, Consumer Advice Associate
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This is what most people associate with diesel vehicles, but it is no longer the case.A few years ago, experts predicted that the days of "dirty diesels" were over, and clean diesels would quickly reach the popularity of hybrids. They looked at the widespread acceptance of diesel vehicles in Europe and figured the same thing would happen here in the U.S. But the diesel revolution never happened. Fuel prices, lack of variety and an inclination toward hybrids kept diesel vehicles relegated to a niche market. But if the new breed of diesels is so good, what's holding them back?
Price of Fuel
According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration, since September 2004, the price of diesel fuel has been generally higher than the price of regular gasoline all year round. They cite three reasons for this: 1) Worldwide demand for diesel fuel has been increasing steadily, with strong demand in China, Europe and the United States putting more pressure on the tight global refining capacity; 2) in the United States, the transition to ultralow-sulfur diesel (ULSD) fuel has affected diesel fuel production and distribution costs; 3) the federal excise tax on diesel fuel is 6 cents higher per gallon (24.4 cents per gallon) than the tax on gasoline.
Although you'll get more energy from a gallon of diesel, many people only look at the price. Depending on the price of diesel fuel in your area, buying a diesel vehicle may feel like having a car that only takes premium fuel — which is as much as 25 cents more per gallon.
What's Holding Diesel Back in the U.S.?(1 Comments)
The Cars Are Better Than Ever, but Diesel Is Still a Tough Sell
Published: 05/18/2010 - by Ronald Montoya, Consumer Advice Associate
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Dr Keats/Creative
This is what most people associate with diesel vehicles, but it is no longer the case.A few years ago, experts predicted that the days of "dirty diesels" were over, and clean diesels would quickly reach the popularity of hybrids. They looked at the widespread acceptance of diesel vehicles in Europe and figured the same thing would happen here in the U.S. But the diesel revolution never happened. Fuel prices, lack of variety and an inclination toward hybrids kept diesel vehicles relegated to a niche market. But if the new breed of diesels is so good, what's holding them back?
Price of Fuel
According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration, since September 2004, the price of diesel fuel has been generally higher than the price of regular gasoline all year round. They cite three reasons for this: 1) Worldwide demand for diesel fuel has been increasing steadily, with strong demand in China, Europe and the United States putting more pressure on the tight global refining capacity; 2) in the United States, the transition to ultralow-sulfur diesel (ULSD) fuel has affected diesel fuel production and distribution costs; 3) the federal excise tax on diesel fuel is 6 cents higher per gallon (24.4 cents per gallon) than the tax on gasoline.
Although you'll get more energy from a gallon of diesel, many people only look at the price. Depending on the price of diesel fuel in your area, buying a diesel vehicle may feel like having a car that only takes premium fuel — which is as much as 25 cents more per gallon.
I don't like it as much as the next guy. But complaining isn't going to get us far. It will only change when somebody with a real set of ***** steps up in this country and makes the changes that need to happen. Until then, we will continue working a deficit until we can't pay back the interest on it and we will end up in a situation like Cali is facing. Simple as that.
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02-11-2011, 04:40 PM
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Time to go Egyption?
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02-13-2011, 10:10 AM
I thought the idea behind supply and demand was if demand increased then prices would go down, cause supply would obviously be "increased"
You bring prices down on objects that sell a lot so more people will buy them, not increase.
whatever.
I guess that seems irrational to them.
I know here that Gas prices have went down 30 cents, and diesel has not changed.
3.08 for 87, and 3.55 for diesel.
Sometimes you can find it for 3.49.
You bring prices down on objects that sell a lot so more people will buy them, not increase.
whatever.
I guess that seems irrational to them.
I know here that Gas prices have went down 30 cents, and diesel has not changed.
3.08 for 87, and 3.55 for diesel.
Sometimes you can find it for 3.49.
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I thought the idea behind supply and demand was if demand increased then prices would go down, cause supply would obviously be "increased"
You bring prices down on objects that sell a lot so more people will buy them, not increase.
whatever.
I guess that seems irrational to them.
I know here that Gas prices have went down 30 cents, and diesel has not changed.
3.08 for 87, and 3.55 for diesel.
Sometimes you can find it for 3.49.
You bring prices down on objects that sell a lot so more people will buy them, not increase.
whatever.
I guess that seems irrational to them.
I know here that Gas prices have went down 30 cents, and diesel has not changed.
3.08 for 87, and 3.55 for diesel.
Sometimes you can find it for 3.49.
That's exactly the way it works. See my above comment.
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Any one know just how much money people are making off of us on diesel. And how much ofd it is tax? And lets not forget how many people rely on it to keep there homes warm in the winter. I can tell you that I pay close to a dollar a gallon more at the pumps for it a I guess that is tax.
They tax the hell out of us here in NY. I pay close to 10 dollars for a pack of smokes here on LI and when I go into NYC it is closer to 15 dollars a pack because of tax. If we pay so much in tax for fuel I guess you can see where our government is probably taking in billions a day from the sale of gas and oil. And I guess you can see why the government wont put a cap on the profits people make on oil.
They tax the hell out of us here in NY. I pay close to 10 dollars for a pack of smokes here on LI and when I go into NYC it is closer to 15 dollars a pack because of tax. If we pay so much in tax for fuel I guess you can see where our government is probably taking in billions a day from the sale of gas and oil. And I guess you can see why the government wont put a cap on the profits people make on oil.
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02-13-2011, 09:04 PM