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Before we all start either jumping off bridges or stocking our bunkers w/food & M16 ammo...
Originally Posted by driximus
if the economy crashes stock up on canned food water guns and bullets...
You guys keep forgetting the toilet paper...I'm telling ya, it'll be as valuable as gold!!
Originally Posted by Servinghim
Biggest thing I love i when the Ag boys fill up their Tractors and then drain them of the Farm Gas and put in their diesels.... nothing like damaging your truck to save 50-70cents a gal
You can't harm your diesel (pre-2007) by using farm diesel. The only real difference is the red dye they put in it to identify the fuel.
I guess we could all store Gas in our Ex's and sell the gas cheaper than the pump to people later after we bought it @ a cheaper price right?
Biggest thing I love i when the Ag boys fill up their Tractors and then drain them of the Farm Gas and put in their diesels.... nothing like damaging your truck to save 50-70cents a gal
Red diesel only differs in the red dye they put in it to identify that no road taxes have been paid on it. When diesel hit $5+ a lil while back the Feds actually okayed the use of red diesel in on highway diesel due to fuel shortages
lol so i went on alittle road trip this weekend. filled up when i got here to seward, alaska. $4.07 for supreme. i paid $3.79 for reg 87. diesel was 4 somthing...
$5.00 gas or higher is absolutely coming if for no other reason than the USD is falling like a rock bcus the Fed is out of control and is printing USD like its going out of style
Cotton rose 90% in 2010 followed by sugar, wheat, copper, silver, and gold. ALL of which left the DJIA 10% increase in the dust
Commodities are rising bcus the Fed is destroying the USD
Re my Ex, I bought a diesel 4x4 bcus I know whats coming and its going to be scarey. If need be I can make my own diesel fuel and there are biofuel stations where I can get home made diesel at $0.25 a gallon
The other reason for the Ex is security. Financial instability & collapse brings w it social unrest and rise in crime. Its likely USA will be seeing riots soon in places like CA, Chicago, Detroit, and the most depressed US economies. In this scenario I want to be driving the biggest scariest thing I can find that can flat push any obstacles out of its way and carry my whole family to safety if need be.
I'm staying away from US stocks. The US markets are so manipulated by DC thats its hard to see through all the nonsense
Originally Posted by aortizexcursion
Yup, China and India are part of the problem.
Yes, no doubt but the US Fed is a much bigger problem. The Fed controls the USD and refuses to be controlled by Congress or even tell Congress where almost $3 Trillion were loaned to. Fed is intentionally destroying the value of the USD and causing inflation. They dont care about the USA only about making $ for their bankers
Originally Posted by jeronlines
We have a disjointed connection of states that can't put individual interests aside for our collective good.
Bottom line- we NEED to find alternative fuel sources that can be independent of economic concerns. I love my Ex, but it has a limited future in this world.
This is because America's Founders saw States rights as more important than the rights of DC
Also we dont need to FIND any resources. We already have them and we know exactly where they are. USA has more energy in the form of coal than Saudi has in oil and the ***** perfected fischer tropsch tech for converting coal into oil in WW2. Problem is its expensive and Oil needs to be over $150 a barrel for an extended period for investors to dump the $Billions required into FT. Brazil for example told OPEC to stuff it and they power their cars on sugar ethanol and they have massive hydro plants for the rest of their energy needs. USA CAN start this tomorrow but the will to do so is lacking and the WILL is what we need to find
$5.00 gas or higher is absolutely coming if for no other reason than the USD is falling like a rock bcus the Fed is out of control and is printing USD like its going out of style
Cotton rose 90% in 2010 followed by sugar, wheat, copper, silver, and gold. ALL of which left the DJIA 10% increase in the dust
Commodities are rising bcus the Fed is destroying the USD
Re my Ex, I bought a diesel 4x4 bcus I know whats coming and its going to be scarey. If need be I can make my own diesel fuel and there are biofuel stations where I can get home made diesel at $0.25 a gallon
The other reason for the Ex is security. Financial instability & collapse brings w it social unrest and rise in crime. Its likely USA will be seeing riots soon in places like CA, Chicago, Detroit, and the most depressed US economies. In this scenario I want to be driving the biggest scariest thing I can find that can flat push any obstacles out of its way and carry my whole family to safety if need be.
So my Ex is going nowhere
I know what you mean ... Look at coffee beans alone -- 77% increase in 2010...
Look around........things ain't getting any better. This isn't like the 20th century when technology and cheap oil drove everything and the sky was the limit........We are at a contraction point, the future may look a lot more like "Mad Max" or "The Postman" than any shiny vision of a technologically advanced future.......No cheap oil or a alternative that does not use more energy to produce than it gives, and we are possibly looking at a new Dark Ages.
I'm not that Gloomy
USA is certainly in a recession and its going to be painful
China on the other hand has been snapping up contracts across Africa, South America, an Middle East and is pushing forwards w an agressive space exploration plan while NASA has been gutted
Chinese are going for ONE THING in space exploration. Helium 3 which costs $4 BILLION per ton on Earth but is lying everywhere on th Moon and is extremely accesible there. Chinese are betting they can collect H3 bring it back to Earth and perfect Nuclear Fusion. If China does this OPEC will be obsolete overnight and China will have a monopoly on cheap energy and will be happy to sell to everybody for a nice fat profit
On a related note anybody see what OK Senator Tom Coburn said re USA facing APOCALYPTIC PAIN if we dont get our spending under control within 3-4 years
Last time I looked Sen Coburn doesnt wear a tin hat and is far better informed than most of us
This ties right in to $5.00 gas bcus of the Fed destroying the value of the USD and DC exploding our deficit
History repeats itself. The worst ---IS-- yet to come. We're following the same path we did back during the Great Depression. 2011 to 2013 looks very bad.
Theres no Adolf Hitler and his massive, experienced, qualitatively superior war machine out there bent on world domination......no Imperial Japan to to tie us down on another front.
The war was what pulled us out of the depression, not FDRs programs. ......The Soviet Union is a memory, replaced by a corrupt gov, bent on lining its own pockets with the fruits of new found capitalism. ....Theres a collection of tin pot dictators out there that will never be able to form a alliance.....If Iran gets the Bomb, Israel will stomp them out.
China is the threat that may have to be dealt with.........they are NOT our friends.
If our economy crashes, theirs does as well......few months later, but down it will come.
Worldwide global depression, all bets are off.
So much for cheap gas, I just filled up this morning for 5.57/gal. for 91 octane.Thank God it was my car I filled up and not the Ex., $60 to not fill up a cavalier completely, that sucks large. This is Ont. Can. price for gas.Nunomad
Theres no Adolf Hitler and his massive, experienced, qualitatively superior war machine out there bent on world domination.
The war was what pulled us out of the depression, not FDRs programs. ......The Soviet Union is a memory, replaced by a corrupt gov, bent on lining its own pockets with the fruits of new found capitalism. ....Theres a collection of tin pot dictators out there that will never be able to form a alliance.....If Iran gets the Bomb, Israel will stomp them out.
China is the threat that may have to be dealt with.........they are NOT our friends.
If our economy crashes, theirs does as well......few months later, but down it will come.
Worldwide global depression, all bets are off.
No Hitler but the ***** are still around. Wahabism is a blend of Jihadism + ***** philosophy as a lot of ***** were welcomed into the ME after WW2 and they both hate Jews.
Luckily for USA, Israel, & EU it seems like W left us all a little secret present in the form of the STUXNET virus which has incapacitated Iranian nuke plants
But the Jihadis DO want world domination and though they lack the Third Reichs excellent manufacturing capability they are extremely well funded by Iran, Saudi and armed by NK & Russia
China is our Frenemy but they know our economies are tied at the hip but they are busy attempting to rely less on USA by forming contracts for resources & raw materials all over Africa, ME, & South America.
If it hits the fan for China they can just cut USA loose and a few million Chinese may die of hunger but Mao allowed that to happen in the 50s so I doubt that will slow todays Chinese leaders either
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