yup might have to give up hanging out at them dancing girl bars where u give um dollars

 

Since my Excursion is not a daily driver, I'll still keep it. In fact, I'll be able to but the 7.3 crew cab long bed I want too when people start to panic and dump their diesels. Fuel will spike as it did a couple years ago then come back down. Keep yer trucks, or I'll buy them .

That said, yesterday unleaded jumped $.16 .

 

Get a locking filler cap. Heck 5 gallons siphoned from our tank isn't
even noticable.

 

or keep it in the garage

 

Looks like I might have to hit my buddy up for his veggie oil from his business

 

This administration has a agenda. It is obvious. Put aside all the other unbelievable crap they've pulled and look at this for a minute. He wants to be the savior. He wants to be the man that made a difference. He is showing us tough love right now. This sharp incline had more to do with the banning of offshore drilling. Speculators and big oil are now licking their chops. It creates that little bit of panic and people start giving us the doom and gloom of $5 gas. Okay, now what. Obama now starts saying "I told you so" and pushes for research into clean coal technology and alternative fuel sources, which by the way most of that technology and patents are held by big oil, and we all run out to guess who? GM, yes you start to see, we are all supposed to go out and buy this new Volt which makes GM profitable and makes the investment make sense.

Flaws to that plan:

1. Cat and mouse. We cut back on oil usage like we did two years ago. They cut production and create a false high demand and oil remains high just to be able to fill up the Volt. At that point lets say gas hits $8. They still win.

2. We all go out, buy hybirds and feel good about ourselves. Big oil counters like they have historically and all the sudden prices drop. We see money in our pockets, buy up bigger gas guzzlers and sell off the hybirds again only to be set up like we have been now. Two years ago they did this to us.

The $5 predictions in my opinion is only setting us up for high $3's. It will suck, it will keep the economy teetering but the rich will stay rich and the middle class will stay struggling. At $4 it will cripple the economy and that wont happen. If they really want to solve this problem they would'nt have to work hard at it. We have enough oil here to sustain our useage for many many years. Extracting and refining our own oil would create jobs and could satisfy our economy untill a proven alternative fuel source is developed and put to market. I personally would feel better about paying $2+ a gallon if I knew it was our oil dollars going into our economy. America needs to take care of America right now. We can do it but special interest groups ie: treehuggers have too loud of a voice and those voices could mean votes. I could go on and on but it is all wasted breath.

 

Bingo! hedge the market and you could make a pretty penny. Plus, it'll be worth a bunch after the motor law. (Rush reference)

 

I can't believe this forum turned into a political blog. I come here for truck advice and now I get the same crackpot crap I have to endure from so called "news?" First off, society will not collapse. We have survived invasion (1812), a civil war (1865), Depression, recession, unpopular wars (60's and 00's), and unpopular leaders. Do things cost more now? Yup. Fact of life. Will dilling offshore help? Nope. That oil will be extracted by multinational corporations and sold on a global market. Look up Fungible commodity. $5/gal would kill not only our economy, but China and India's. With no one purchasing oil, the price will drop. Or world war 5 will break out. (That isn't a reality.) Oil needs to be thought of as a drug. The price is artificially set by the people with the oil. Not by supply and demand. If they don't make what they want, they raise the price. When people stop using it, they lower the price so people will again "shoot up." Read Gusher of LIes for a good background is oil use and history. If the price was set by traditional supply and demand it would be cheaper.

The zombies aren't coming and Mad Max won't happen. We'll have to cut back on cheetos and vacations, but we'll soldier on. It's what we do.

The people on this board have shown amazing generousity and technical savvy. Please don't let emotion and lack of rational thought destroy that.

Thank you.

 

where's my tinfoil hat?????

 

The higher the price for fuel goes, the more convinced I am I did the
right thing by buying the PSD instead of a gas Excursion for my
daily driver (and the family w/dog hauler)

But, most SUVs on the road get mid teens and so do many older cars.
With my PSD, I get 17 MPG to/from work, and I got 21 MPG driving 1300
miles over Thansgiving between FL & NC - only filled up once.
Including 4 hour's of stop-n-go traffic through parts of SC and GA.

For folks with the gas v8/v10 getting 10 to 14 MPG I can see where the
Ex "might" be an issue based on the price of fuel.
Add on 4x4 and a 6" inch lift and it really takes away the fuel mileage.

I get better mileage than our Jeep, Explorer, or my former Tahoe - so
even though a fill-up is more expensive I go MUCH further on a tank, I don't see the price of fuel effecting my vehicle choice:

$220 to get 40 gallons of diesel (@ 5.50 gal assume 10% more than gas)
$200 to get 40 gallons of gas (@ 5.00 gal)
$75 to get 15 gallons of gas with a standard car/mini-van

 

Having 5 kids right now, all of them in Booster seats or car seats (yeah yeah i know what causes this...) Choices are limited when seating 7 with that kind of setup.

Now that said I have a little car thats paid for and gets the 28gpm but my wife prefers driving the 2nd Ex since she's only 3 miles from work... Perhaps if/when gas gets bad she'll go back to the little car.

Still got to drive what has to be driven regardless of Gas prices. Just going to stop on all the 'fluff' that can eat ones lunch too during those times.

Just my 2 cents which with inflation isn't worth that right now.

 

You're not kidding.When I left Ca in July 2008,after living there for 48 years,I paid $5.25 a gallon the day I moved.Got here and it was $3 something,yesterday it was $3.19 a gallon.
Hold on.

 

I agree 100%.

 

I'm planning a 4500 mile RV trek this coming July...OF COURSE fuel will go thru the roof...

The last 4500 mile trek we took was summer of 2008 when gas hit $4 and diesel hit $5...you can blame me...sorry!

 

Yes I would keep my V10 at $5.00. I offset the cost by bicycle commuting whenever I can (3 miles, up hill each way) We put on under 10K a year and it is our TT hauler. The cost of gas and moving 5 kids (blended family) plus trailer is still cheaper than flying on the airlines and paying for hotels and rental cars.

I did all the math before purchasing and went into my X with eyes wide open.

It's the experiences we're going for, that's where the memories are made.