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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 02:11 PM
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ebpv maitenance

I have read much about ebpv delete and/or cleaning the tube that runs to the sensor. I am about to delete the ebpv valve and pedestal on my f350 due to an oil leak and since I am in there I am going to delete the whole shebang....

Since I have another7.3 I am curious if anyone cleans the ebpv pipe and sensor on a ROUTINE basis along with other maintenance things they do on their 'stroke.Going to do that on my EX when time allows this spring...If someone does this about how many miles between hose cleanouts do you do it?
 
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 02:53 PM
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The tube can become brittle and removing the sensor could cause it to crack. Ask me how I know?
 
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 03:03 PM
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yea when my senser went had to change tube to it was gone . i got about 200000 mi out of it though. cant complain wes
 
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 03:17 PM
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I can't say for sure but from what I head, it does give some input to the ECM for fueling purposes. If so, I wouldn't be in a hurry to delete it. Also, depending on the truck, it might or might not throw an SES light. Kalifornia trucks and Excursions will probably since they are hyper sensitive.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 04:14 PM
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already got my little resistor from radioshack ready to go in
 
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 05:28 PM
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I would leave the EBPS, but get rid of the EBPV (which not remarkably, is what I did -- LOL). You may want to be able to see the back pressure later with AE or ScanGauge (I run the ScanGauge) -- it's actually a handy thing to see.

I took mine apart to clean it once, but it just had a fine layer of soot, so I sprayed a little B12 through the tube & sensor and reinstalled. Been fine since. And I do look at my back pressure now & then so I know it's still working.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Izzy351
I would leave the EBPS, but get rid of the EBPV (which not remarkably, is what I did -- LOL). You may want to be able to see the back pressure later with AE or ScanGauge (I run the ScanGauge) -- it's actually a handy thing to see.

I took mine apart to clean it once, but it just had a fine layer of soot, so I sprayed a little B12 through the tube & sensor and reinstalled. Been fine since. And I do look at my back pressure now & then so I know it's still working.
What a good back pressure reading I should be seeing with my ScanGauge Joe ?
 
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What a good back pressure reading I should be seeing with my ScanGauge Joe ?
At idle, it will be approximately atmospheric pressure (14.7 psia, or psi absolute). You have to subtract that to get it in "gauge pressure", like your normal boost gauge reads. It really needs to be watched at the upper end of where you run. So if you're getting 25psi boost (which technically should be 25 psig to indicate gauge pressure, not absolute pressure), ideally you don't want to see over about 40 psia back pressure. That makes the boost about equal to back pressure, or a 1:1 ratio. I get 35psi with my van turbo, and about 50psia back pressure which is also 1:1.
 
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What a good back pressure reading I should be seeing with my ScanGauge Joe ?
At idle, it will be approximately atmospheric pressure (14.7 psia, or psi absolute). You have to subtract that to get it in "gauge pressure", like your normal boost gauge reads. It really needs to be watched at the upper end of where you run. So if you're getting 25 psi max boost (which technically should be 25 psig to indicate gauge pressure, not absolute pressure), ideally you don't want to see over about 40 psia back pressure. That makes the boost about equal to back pressure, or a 1:1 ratio. I get 35 psi with my van turbo, and about 50 psia back pressure which is also 1:1.
 
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I'm not planning on taking out the tube and sensor...just the pedestal unhooking that solenoid and new non flapper housing from turbonetics....I have another 7.3 and was thinking of taking it off and cleaning it...just curious if others routinely clean that tube and sensor every so many 'k miles
 
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Originally Posted by Izzy351
At idle, it will be approximately atmospheric pressure (14.7 psia, or psi absolute). You have to subtract that to get it in "gauge pressure", like your normal boost gauge reads. It really needs to be watched at the upper end of where you run. So if you're getting 25 psi max boost (which technically should be 25 psig to indicate gauge pressure, not absolute pressure), ideally you don't want to see over about 40 psia back pressure. That makes the boost about equal to back pressure, or a 1:1 ratio. I get 35 psi with my van turbo, and about 50 psia back pressure which is also 1:1.
As always, great job of explaining.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2010 | 06:30 PM
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not to hi jack, but how do you clean the tube, and how dificult is it to replace the tube and sensor?
 
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Originally Posted by Josh88Ford
not to hi jack, but how do you clean the tube, and how dificult is it to replace the tube and sensor?
Remove sensor carefully. Take a long piece of weedwhacker cord and fix it to the drill like you would a bit and hit the drill slowly.

I see where I might have been writing with a little too much eggnog. This process is for the tube.
 
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not to hi jack, but how do you clean the tube, and how dificult is it to replace the tube and sensor?
Its also not recommended to try cleaning out the sensor. You could end up poking a hole in the sensor and end up with a useless piece of plastic.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2010 | 11:18 PM
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Its also not recommended to try cleaning out the sensor. You could end up poking a hole in the sensor and end up with a useless piece of plastic.


That is what I did.
 
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