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Old 06-23-2016, 10:07 AM
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what's going on?

OK my work truck completely stock( check my SIG) is throwing me codes P0603(internal control module keep alive memory malfunction, p1211(ICP higher/lower than desired), p1105(dual alt upper malfunction), p1106(dual alt lower malfunction)

The most concerning to me is the p1211 as the truck feels sluggish and CEL turns on at wot. I still have the OEM injectors and O rings, can this be caused by a blown O ring? The fuel filter is clean not a spec of black or anything, not burning oil, and start instantly cold or hot. The ICP was changed with a motorcraft one so is the IPR, the cps is the grey one a year old also a motorcrapt one. I'm leanings towards the hpop, but I still got to trouble shoot.
What vitals do I look for? My laptop cant be unplugged because the battery don't work, can this test be performed sitting still power braking? ( note I can't spin the wheels if I power brake before it could)
 
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Old 06-23-2016, 10:17 AM
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Have you ruled out low fuel pressure?
 
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Old 06-23-2016, 10:23 AM
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Yes 70 psi at idle(bb mod) and 60psi@ wot.
 
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I would do a WOT run while monitoring the ICP. However, no signs of oil in the fuel filter should rule out o-rings. You do have a lot of miles on her to still have factory o-rings and injectors.
 
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A clean fuel filter doesn't rule out a bad upper o-ring on an injector. Any oil leaking from the upper o-ring would simply go back to the crankcase.
 
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Old 06-23-2016, 11:25 AM
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That's what I was thinking Pikachu, I just didn't know if it was possible, but wouldn't I have a hard start when hot?
 
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It depends on how severe the leak is, but if an o-ring is breached it will keep eroding and get worse over time. At some point it will probably get hard to start warm if that's what the issue is.
 

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And it may not leak until some serious pressure is put to it.
 
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Yeah... an upper O-ring that can hold enough at 2K PSI ICP while cranking (very low RPM) may just be overwhelmed at 2800 PSI WOT 3000 RPM. Cody test shows upper O-ring failures.
 
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Thanks for the input guys, now the question is- Should I rebuild them or just install new O rings? They still work "good" no smoke or rough idle when cold, with glow plug disconnected and 19° temps she starts right up.
 
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I think you have to figure out if in fact that is the problem. One way would be to pull the HPOP lines and do a pressure test. Or you could start it with the valve covers off and see if any of them spray more oil than the rest under pressure.
 
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I'll dig more deep into it on Monday, haven't really done much testing, its mostly a hunch I have simply because it happened over night and considering the mileage the injector O rings have they are suspect.
 
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