valve lash adjustment
#1
valve lash adjustment
Ok I'm trying to find info on valve lash adjustment on my 223 l6 from a 1960 F250...
So the big question is while I have the time to do it at this point does anyone have the specs on these adjustments for this motor?? I really need to get a book but I don't want to wait to get this adjusted...
do you warm it up and then run the feeler guage between the valve spring seat and the rocker, when the valve is fully closed? if so mine are all approximatly .028 and that seems a bit loose to me... on another thread a kid with a 215 said .014min .016max... but that's a different motor, Is it the same for the 223?
Thank you for any help,
Joe
So the big question is while I have the time to do it at this point does anyone have the specs on these adjustments for this motor?? I really need to get a book but I don't want to wait to get this adjusted...
do you warm it up and then run the feeler guage between the valve spring seat and the rocker, when the valve is fully closed? if so mine are all approximatly .028 and that seems a bit loose to me... on another thread a kid with a 215 said .014min .016max... but that's a different motor, Is it the same for the 223?
Thank you for any help,
Joe
#2
Not sure on the how but here is what I found online for the 60 223. this is the site I used to find out specs on my 54 223.
<table style="width: 508px; height: 2558px;" border="1" bordercolor="#fff0dc" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td bgcolor="#666666">GENERAL SPECIFICATIONS
</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Model designation: available in all models </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Wheelbase: all models 119 </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">The valve location: in head </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Bore and stroke: 3.6250 x 3.600. </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Piston displacement, cubic inches: 223 </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Compression ratio: 8.40</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Maximum brake horsepower@RPM: 145 @ 4000</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Maximum torque pounds foot,@RPM: 206 @ 2200</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Normal oil pressure pounds: 45-50</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#666666">TUNEUP SPECIFICATIONS
</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Ground polarity and voltage: negative-12</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Spark plug: Champion 870</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Spark plug gap: .034 </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Distributor: Point Gap Inch: .025. </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Cam angle degrees: 35-38</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Firing order: 153624</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Ignition timing:
damper has five timing marks covering range from TDC to 9° BT DC in 2° increments set timing at 4° with standard transmission and 6° automatic transmission</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Timing Mark location: damper </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Idle speed RPM in neutral: 475</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Compression pressure@cranking speed minimum: 150</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#666666">VALVE SPECIFICATIONS
</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Running clearance:
Interior: .019, hot or cold.
Exterior: .019, hot or cold</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Valve seat angle degrees: 45</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Valve timing:
Intake opens degrees BTDC: 17
Exhaust closes degree a TDC: 9</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Valve spring pressure lbs. At inches length: 161@1.39</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Cam Lobe lift: take measurement at top end of pushrod
Intake:.273
Exhaust:.273</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Stem clearance
Intake: .001-.0024
Exhaust .0028-.0042</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Stem diameter standard
Intake: .3416-.3423
Exhaust: .3398-.3405</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#666666">ENGINE TIGHTENING SPECIFICATIONS
</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Sparkplugs foot-pounds: 15-20 </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Cylinder head bolts foot-pounds: 65-75</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Intake manifold foot-pounds: 23-28</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Exhaust manifold foot-pounds: 23-28 </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Rocker arm shaft brackets foot-pounds: 45-55</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Rocker arm cover foot-pounds: 2 - 2-1/2</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Connecting rod bolts foot-pounds: 45-50 </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Main bearing bolts foot-pounds: 95-105</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Flywheel to crankshaft foot-pounds: 75-85 </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Vibration damper or pulley foot-pounds: 85-95</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#666666">COOLING SYSTEM AND CAPACITY DATA
</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Cooling system data
Quarts, no heater: 15
Quarts, with heater: 16
Radiator cap relief pressure: 12-15
Thermostat opening temperature: 180</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Fuel tank, and gallons: 20 </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Engine oil
Refill quarts: 4; add one quart with filter change</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Transmissions: standard: 3 pints; with overdrive 4-1/4 pints; automatic 10-1/2 quarts</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Rear axle, pints: 4 1/2</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#666666">STARTER MOTOR SPECIFICATIONS
</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Part number: FAR-11001A</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Rotation: clockwise, as viewed from the drive end</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Brush spring tension, ounces: 48-56</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">No load test: amperes: 85, volts: 12, RPM: 4500</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Torque test: amperes: 550, volts: 5.0, torque pounds foot: 15 1/2</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#666666">PISTONS, PINS, RINGS, CRANKSHAFT AND BEARINGS
</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Ring and gap: compression:.010, oil:.015</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Wrist pin diameter: .9121</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Rod bearings: shaft diameter 2.298-2.299: bearing clearance:.0004-.0023</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Main bearings: shaft diameter: 2.498-2.499, bearing clearance:.0005-.0025</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Thrust on bearing number: 3 </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Shaft end play: .004-.008 </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#666666">DISTRIBUTOR SPECIFICATION
</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Part number: FET-12127D, COAF-12127F </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Rotation: clockwise</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Cam angle degrees: 35-38</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Breaker point opening, inch: .025</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Condenser Capacity, Mfds.: .21-.25</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Breaker arm spring tension, ounces: 17-20</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Vacuum advance data:
Inches of vacuum to start plunger movement: FET-12127D: .38; COAF-12127F:.42
Inches of vacuum for full plunger travel: FET-12127D: 5.99; COAF-12127F: 6.5
Maximum vacuum advance, distributor degrees: 13
</td></tr></tbody></table>
taken from 1960 Ford 223 Inline Six Specs
<table style="width: 508px; height: 2558px;" border="1" bordercolor="#fff0dc" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td bgcolor="#666666">GENERAL SPECIFICATIONS
</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Model designation: available in all models </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Wheelbase: all models 119 </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">The valve location: in head </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Bore and stroke: 3.6250 x 3.600. </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Piston displacement, cubic inches: 223 </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Compression ratio: 8.40</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Maximum brake horsepower@RPM: 145 @ 4000</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Maximum torque pounds foot,@RPM: 206 @ 2200</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Normal oil pressure pounds: 45-50</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#666666">TUNEUP SPECIFICATIONS
</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Ground polarity and voltage: negative-12</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Spark plug: Champion 870</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Spark plug gap: .034 </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Distributor: Point Gap Inch: .025. </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Cam angle degrees: 35-38</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Firing order: 153624</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Ignition timing:
damper has five timing marks covering range from TDC to 9° BT DC in 2° increments set timing at 4° with standard transmission and 6° automatic transmission</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Timing Mark location: damper </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Idle speed RPM in neutral: 475</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Compression pressure@cranking speed minimum: 150</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#666666">VALVE SPECIFICATIONS
</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Running clearance:
Interior: .019, hot or cold.
Exterior: .019, hot or cold</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Valve seat angle degrees: 45</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Valve timing:
Intake opens degrees BTDC: 17
Exhaust closes degree a TDC: 9</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Valve spring pressure lbs. At inches length: 161@1.39</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Cam Lobe lift: take measurement at top end of pushrod
Intake:.273
Exhaust:.273</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Stem clearance
Intake: .001-.0024
Exhaust .0028-.0042</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Stem diameter standard
Intake: .3416-.3423
Exhaust: .3398-.3405</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#666666">ENGINE TIGHTENING SPECIFICATIONS
</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Sparkplugs foot-pounds: 15-20 </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Cylinder head bolts foot-pounds: 65-75</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Intake manifold foot-pounds: 23-28</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Exhaust manifold foot-pounds: 23-28 </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Rocker arm shaft brackets foot-pounds: 45-55</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Rocker arm cover foot-pounds: 2 - 2-1/2</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Connecting rod bolts foot-pounds: 45-50 </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Main bearing bolts foot-pounds: 95-105</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Flywheel to crankshaft foot-pounds: 75-85 </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Vibration damper or pulley foot-pounds: 85-95</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#666666">COOLING SYSTEM AND CAPACITY DATA
</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Cooling system data
Quarts, no heater: 15
Quarts, with heater: 16
Radiator cap relief pressure: 12-15
Thermostat opening temperature: 180</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Fuel tank, and gallons: 20 </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Engine oil
Refill quarts: 4; add one quart with filter change</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Transmissions: standard: 3 pints; with overdrive 4-1/4 pints; automatic 10-1/2 quarts</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Rear axle, pints: 4 1/2</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#666666">STARTER MOTOR SPECIFICATIONS
</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Part number: FAR-11001A</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Rotation: clockwise, as viewed from the drive end</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Brush spring tension, ounces: 48-56</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">No load test: amperes: 85, volts: 12, RPM: 4500</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Torque test: amperes: 550, volts: 5.0, torque pounds foot: 15 1/2</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#666666">PISTONS, PINS, RINGS, CRANKSHAFT AND BEARINGS
</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Ring and gap: compression:.010, oil:.015</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Wrist pin diameter: .9121</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Rod bearings: shaft diameter 2.298-2.299: bearing clearance:.0004-.0023</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Main bearings: shaft diameter: 2.498-2.499, bearing clearance:.0005-.0025</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Thrust on bearing number: 3 </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Shaft end play: .004-.008 </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#666666">DISTRIBUTOR SPECIFICATION
</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Part number: FET-12127D, COAF-12127F </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Rotation: clockwise</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Cam angle degrees: 35-38</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Breaker point opening, inch: .025</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Condenser Capacity, Mfds.: .21-.25</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Breaker arm spring tension, ounces: 17-20</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff">Vacuum advance data:
Inches of vacuum to start plunger movement: FET-12127D: .38; COAF-12127F:.42
Inches of vacuum for full plunger travel: FET-12127D: 5.99; COAF-12127F: 6.5
Maximum vacuum advance, distributor degrees: 13
</td></tr></tbody></table>
taken from 1960 Ford 223 Inline Six Specs
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#5
The feeler gauge goes between the rocker and valve tip, and you measure that with the cam turned so the lifter is completely centered on the lobe heel, where the "lift" portion is pointing 180 degrees from the lifter. If you're going to make a habit of checking and adjusting your valves, and it sounds like a good idea, ou may want to invest in a go-no go feeler gauge. It has steps on the blade, so the blade you'd use would be a size .018/.020. When you're adjusted correctly, the .018 side is sloppy, but the .020 portion won't fit at all.
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