SD conversion.
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Fleet Mechanic
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From: Meigs County Ohio
SD conversion.
Since I am building up th 7.3 before it goes into the 75, I was thinking about my turbo dilemma. I was wondering if I did a SD conversion if I would be able to put a better after market turbo on the engine for cheaper. Cause I want to make this truck as custom as possible, so why not do the engine up. Also what would I need to buy to do a SD conversion?
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Don't waste your time with the SD setup. Go with an H2e, QSSB, GQSSB, S300, S400 etc style turbo. The only turbos you can run on an SD platform without changing crap out again would be a stocker, a van turbo or the 38R. Depends on what your plans for the motor are, if you're staying mild go for it but if you plan on stage 2's or bigger go with the T4 style turbo mount.
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38r will hold up very nicely with those hybrids Jesse. I agree you could go with these other aftermarket turbos as mentioned but it will be more costly. You already have the engine out so swapping the drivers side manifold and uppipes will be easy as cake. If you can get one for a good deal, you could probably do the 38r for half the price of a modded H2E or GQSSB.
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A 38R will run you around $1500 for just the turbo. Wouldn't go that route. You can be in a H2E platform complete for less than that and have way better and bigger options down the road!
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Pwrstroke99- 250cc/100% hybrids and 38r has a best of 491hp. Did 463 his first time on the dyno
SooperDoodie has 238cc/100% (I'm not 100% sure on the nozzle size) hybrids and a GT4202. He did 563 on the dyno the same day Pwrstroke99 did 463. I believe he was at 48x when he had the 38r before switching to the 42.
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Then you add in pedestal, plenums, up pipes, boots and you are in the range of a new H2e kit. You can find smoking deals on T4 turbos if you look hard enough, and build a mount kit for around $600 (add a few hundy if you don't have a welder) or buy the kit from Murff racing which is around $600 I believe. You could be into a T4 turbo for $1000-1200.
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Complete H2E kit (modded) is 3k.
You can drop the 38r on the SD pedestal, and it almost performs as well as the H2E.
A lot of our big power guys around here are running 38r's, not H2E's.
The QSSB is a modded s300
It's a good turbo choice, but expensive.
And rag on the 38r all you want, and me.
Jim, Joey, and Clay all run 38r.
You can drop the 38r on the SD pedestal, and it almost performs as well as the H2E.
A lot of our big power guys around here are running 38r's, not H2E's.
The QSSB is a modded s300
It's a good turbo choice, but expensive.
And rag on the 38r all you want, and me.
Jim, Joey, and Clay all run 38r.
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Complete H2E kit (modded) is 3k.
You can drop the 38r on the SD pedestal, and it almost performs as well as the H2E.
A lot of our big power guys around here are running 38r's, not H2E's.
The QSSB is a modded s300
It's a good turbo choice, but expensive.
And rag on the 38r all you want, and me.
Jim, Joey, and Clay all run 38r.
You can drop the 38r on the SD pedestal, and it almost performs as well as the H2E.
A lot of our big power guys around here are running 38r's, not H2E's.
The QSSB is a modded s300
It's a good turbo choice, but expensive.
And rag on the 38r all you want, and me.
Jim, Joey, and Clay all run 38r.
Here we go again...
I never ragged on you or the 38r. It's a good turbo for an SD, but cost prohibitive on an OBS. Yes a NEW H2e kit is 3k from Swamps or whoever else, but you can get into a T4 turbo MUCH CHEAPER like I already pointed out. If someone felt so inclined to eff around with the 38r they'd spend 2k or better for the turbo and all the other junk needed, and they'd still have a turbo that won't outperform a T4 turbo and they are completely stuck with that turbo. Go to a T4 mount and if you don't like the H2e, try an S300. Decided to go bigger did ya? Get a bigger turbo. Do whatever the hell you want, you have MANY choices.
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Here we go again...
I never ragged on you or the 38r. It's a good turbo for an SD, but cost prohibitive on an OBS. Yes a NEW H2e kit is 3k from Swamps or whoever else, but you can get into a T4 turbo MUCH CHEAPER like I already pointed out. If someone felt so inclined to eff around with the 38r they'd spend 2k or better for the turbo and all the other junk needed, and they'd still have a turbo that won't outperform a T4 turbo and they are completely stuck with that turbo. Go to a T4 mount and if you don't like the H2e, try an S300. Decided to go bigger did ya? Get a bigger turbo. Do whatever the hell you want, you have MANY choices.
I never ragged on you or the 38r. It's a good turbo for an SD, but cost prohibitive on an OBS. Yes a NEW H2e kit is 3k from Swamps or whoever else, but you can get into a T4 turbo MUCH CHEAPER like I already pointed out. If someone felt so inclined to eff around with the 38r they'd spend 2k or better for the turbo and all the other junk needed, and they'd still have a turbo that won't outperform a T4 turbo and they are completely stuck with that turbo. Go to a T4 mount and if you don't like the H2e, try an S300. Decided to go bigger did ya? Get a bigger turbo. Do whatever the hell you want, you have MANY choices.
I just laid the info down for you so I didn't have to defend myself, and then you point to yourself like I'm the bad guy.
A 38r Kit is 1500.
I talked to clay about it the other night.
Thats half the price of the H2E, and it almost performs as much. As well, its a ball bearing turbo, not that it makes it any better than the H2E.
And yes, The T4 is a great turbo as well, and the QSSB.
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Here we go again...
I never ragged on you or the 38r. It's a good turbo for an SD, but cost prohibitive on an OBS. Yes a NEW H2e kit is 3k from Swamps or whoever else, but you can get into a T4 turbo MUCH CHEAPER like I already pointed out. If someone felt so inclined to eff around with the 38r they'd spend 2k or better for the turbo and all the other junk needed, and they'd still have a turbo that won't outperform a T4 turbo and they are completely stuck with that turbo. Go to a T4 mount and if you don't like the H2e, try an S300. Decided to go bigger did ya? Get a bigger turbo. Do whatever the hell you want, you have MANY choices.
I never ragged on you or the 38r. It's a good turbo for an SD, but cost prohibitive on an OBS. Yes a NEW H2e kit is 3k from Swamps or whoever else, but you can get into a T4 turbo MUCH CHEAPER like I already pointed out. If someone felt so inclined to eff around with the 38r they'd spend 2k or better for the turbo and all the other junk needed, and they'd still have a turbo that won't outperform a T4 turbo and they are completely stuck with that turbo. Go to a T4 mount and if you don't like the H2e, try an S300. Decided to go bigger did ya? Get a bigger turbo. Do whatever the hell you want, you have MANY choices.