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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 08:08 PM
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You guys will have pics of a Murff Racing T4 kit SUNDAY!!! mine is finally finished with ceramic coating and everything, picking it up at the drag race tomorrow morning. In all honesty I would never bother with a 38R on anything, but thats just me. Not even on an SD if I had on. T4 turbos are much nicer setups and you have a MUCH broader turbo market once you switch to one.

Oh Jesse97psd, that setup never worked very good at all for that guy. Just lettin' ya know. Didn't spool very well. The parallel turbo SD runs real good, but it doesn't have stock turbos on it.

Now, where do I start. Why was everyone gettin' their panties in a bunch with Chase?! Last I checked Jesse, you haven't been around these trucks a whole lot, much less when it comes to performance so all that junk you typed about ATS and everything, good luck. You will find that everyone with a 7.3 much over 500hp do NOT have the SD turbo setup, they have an aftermarket T4 kit. 238s are capable of over 500hp, but the 38R is tapped out at that point, ATS is junk, and well, so is the TN BB(turbonetics). Not trying to be an A$$ although it may come across that way, just sayin..

If you want your truck to really perform well with a decent set of hybrids and also have a HUGE selection of CHEAP turbos, get a T4 kit. If you want to be stuck with the crap thats available for the SD, run the SD setup and spend $1500 on a 38R plus buying the rest of the parts. My murff kit cost me $550... S400's run in the $1000 range.
 
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 10:21 PM
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hold on!

Originally Posted by strokin'_tatsch
You guys will have pics of a Murff Racing T4 kit SUNDAY!!! mine is finally finished with ceramic coating and everything, picking it up at the drag race tomorrow morning. In all honesty I would never bother with a 38R on anything, but thats just me. Not even on an SD if I had on. T4 turbos are much nicer setups and you have a MUCH broader turbo market once you switch to one.

Oh Jesse97psd, that setup never worked very good at all for that guy. Just lettin' ya know. Didn't spool very well. The parallel turbo SD runs real good, but it doesn't have stock turbos on it.

Now, where do I start. Why was everyone gettin' their panties in a bunch with Chase?! Last I checked Jesse, you haven't been around these trucks a whole lot, much less when it comes to performance so all that junk you typed about ATS and everything, good luck. You will find that everyone with a 7.3 much over 500hp do NOT have the SD turbo setup, they have an aftermarket T4 kit. 238s are capable of over 500hp, but the 38R is tapped out at that point, ATS is junk, and well, so is the TN BB(turbonetics). Not trying to be an A$$ although it may come across that way, just sayin..

If you want your truck to really perform well with a decent set of hybrids and also have a HUGE selection of CHEAP turbos, get a T4 kit. If you want to be stuck with the crap thats available for the SD, run the SD setup and spend $1500 on a 38R plus buying the rest of the parts. My murff kit cost me $550... S400's run in the $1000 range.
Ok first all I wasn't sure how that truck worked out with the twin turbos... he made a pass down the road and that was it. As for my comment to ATS, I didn't say a whole lot towards them. In fact I said they didn't look to bad so I don't know how that comes out as crap.
I've had my powerstroke for three years now so I know my way around it. As for performance I've only put in pillar gauges and just now got the downpipe for it. Thanks for the quick lesson in performance but at this point I wouldn't need that much power. Id be happy with another 50-100hp.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 06:23 AM
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Cant wait for the pics Travis!!!
 
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 08:49 AM
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If you just want another 50-100hp then you could do it a lot cheaper than those upgrades.

Stage I or II injectors (less than $1000), modded 17* HPOP (less than $500), Comp modded TP38 turbo (fits stock pedestal and $850, comperable to D66), Intercooler ($250), Electric Fuel ($500), Maybe some bellowed up-pipes too.

You'd have about 150-200hp over what you have now easily with less modification and no expensive pedestal kits or spendy turbos. And cheaper than hybrid injectors.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 09:47 AM
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I'm just learning here, but I have an H2E, turbo only. It is my understanding that a complete kit with turbo is only about 500.00 more than the kit to mount the turbo. Is this true? what are some other options to make this turbo work, or will this turbo even be good with stage 1's and a good tune?
 
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 11:16 AM
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Yeah I figured it'd cost that much. Wayyy to much. I figured I'd just throw a switchable chip in it. I thought I might get a little extra
 
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by fifth wheel
I'm just learning here, but I have an H2E, turbo only. It is my understanding that a complete kit with turbo is only about 500.00 more than the kit to mount the turbo. Is this true? what are some other options to make this turbo work, or will this turbo even be good with stage 1's and a good tune?
Check out Bean's Diesel for the prices on the H2E kits.

Last time I looked the kit with a modded H2E cost about $3,000.

Stage I's might be a little small for it. I think the regular H2E would be ok with I's and a good chip, but the modded H2E would need more fuel, at least Stage II's I think.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by strokin'_tatsch
You guys will have pics of a Murff Racing T4 kit SUNDAY!!! mine is finally finished with ceramic coating and everything, picking it up at the drag race tomorrow morning. In all honesty I would never bother with a 38R on anything, but thats just me. Not even on an SD if I had on. T4 turbos are much nicer setups and you have a MUCH broader turbo market once you switch to one.

Oh Jesse97psd, that setup never worked very good at all for that guy. Just lettin' ya know. Didn't spool very well. The parallel turbo SD runs real good, but it doesn't have stock turbos on it.

Now, where do I start. Why was everyone gettin' their panties in a bunch with Chase?! Last I checked Jesse, you haven't been around these trucks a whole lot, much less when it comes to performance so all that junk you typed about ATS and everything, good luck. You will find that everyone with a 7.3 much over 500hp do NOT have the SD turbo setup, they have an aftermarket T4 kit. 238s are capable of over 500hp, but the 38R is tapped out at that point, ATS is junk, and well, so is the TN BB(turbonetics). Not trying to be an A$$ although it may come across that way, just sayin..

If you want your truck to really perform well with a decent set of hybrids and also have a HUGE selection of CHEAP turbos, get a T4 kit. If you want to be stuck with the crap thats available for the SD, run the SD setup and spend $1500 on a 38R plus buying the rest of the parts. My murff kit cost me $550... S400's run in the $1000 range.
Its cool Travis, I get what your saying, just I have seen many time Chase has gotten all uppity with William, and William is one of my best friends, and without going into back story I would much rather lose a girlfriend then lose William. And I may not have been around these truck a ton performance wise. But HEUI (Intl and CAT) I know. =) As for your Murff setup, keep good detail cause I want to do it, and does he make a kit specifically for the OBS? I am excited cause well Murffs is cheap and I found me a turbo for 650. =) 71mm.

Anyways yeah I want to know about routing the oil lines.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 09:32 PM
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Good for you! Bout time you get a turbo.
 
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 09:44 PM
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I know, good for me, as long as guy doenst sell it lol.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 11:20 AM
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Glad to hear you saw the light when it comes to turbo setup choices
 
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Jesse97psd
Ok first all I wasn't sure how that truck worked out with the twin turbos... he made a pass down the road and that was it. As for my comment to ATS, I didn't say a whole lot towards them. In fact I said they didn't look to bad so I don't know how that comes out as crap.

I've had my powerstroke for three years now so I know my way around it. As for performance I've only put in pillar gauges and just now got the downpipe for it. Thanks for the quick lesson in performance but at this point I wouldn't need that much power. Id be happy with another 50-100hp.
I was talking to the other Jesse(TowingCowboy). Not you buddy. I wasn't tryin' to be an A$$ about that twin turbo psd, just telling you incase you decide to try it someday. His needed smaller turbine housings to help spool time, but idk if it had enough air flow or not.

Originally Posted by TheTowingCowboy
Its cool Travis, I get what your saying, just I have seen many time Chase has gotten all uppity with William, and William is one of my best friends, and without going into back story I would much rather lose a girlfriend then lose William. And I may not have been around these truck a ton performance wise. But HEUI (Intl and CAT) I know. =) As for your Murff setup, keep good detail cause I want to do it, and does he make a kit specifically for the OBS? I am excited cause well Murffs is cheap and I found me a turbo for 650. =) 71mm.

Anyways yeah I want to know about routing the oil lines.
Do your research is all i'm going to tell you. Make sure it's a T4 turbo, ask for turbo A/R size, turbine wheel size, turbo model, etc. we don't want you getting something you will never spool up. That would be a waste of $650.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by fifth wheel
I'm just learning here, but I have an H2E, turbo only. It is my understanding that a complete kit with turbo is only about 500.00 more than the kit to mount the turbo. Is this true? what are some other options to make this turbo work, or will this turbo even be good with stage 1's and a good tune?
Thats quite a lot of turbo for stage 1's. You should make me a good deal on it so that when I get the fuel squirters I want I'll have enough air for them
 
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 05:44 PM
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fifthwheel, the H2E is a nice cheap little turbo. They come off of some older big rig engines, but i can't remember which ones. The problem is the way the T4I housing on it means you have to either use the hypermax mounting kit($$$$) or use Carson Stauffer's mounting kit which is cheaper, but still costs more than the turbo. A stock H2E would work for some stage 2's pretty nicely, but your stock turbo will work for stage 1's pretty decent.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by strokin'_tatsch
fifthwheel, the H2E is a nice cheap little turbo. They come off of some older big rig engines, but i can't remember which ones. The problem is the way the T4I housing on it means you have to either use the hypermax mounting kit($$$$) or use Carson Stauffer's mounting kit which is cheaper, but still costs more than the turbo. A stock H2E would work for some stage 2's pretty nicely, but your stock turbo will work for stage 1's pretty decent.
H2e's were on the Cummins L10 engines. You should be able to oval out the holes on a T4 mount to work with the T4i flange on the H2e but don't quote me on that!
 
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