2012 Wish List
Senior User
Joined: Aug 2010
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From: Arizona
How about an option for decent tires. Continental? Come on! What a waste of rubber.
Auto-locking (electric locking) tailgate. Duh! And maybe quick removal should be an option. I'm tired of tailgate theft!
Synch Traffic, Directions and Information should be available with the nav unit!
Hotshot
Joined: Nov 2000
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From: Pflugerville, tx
you got 800 miles of warning. I think thats 2 or 3 tanks of fuel.. so, refill when u need it..
you shouldn't have to manage it that close that you need a separate gauge.
Sam
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From: North of Salt Lake City
I'm also thinking it would be pretty difficult to use a float-type sensor in a solution that will freeze solid in the winter time. That would have to be a pretty robust float to survive all that freezing and thawing.
Cargo Master
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Here is another Perfect example why I care,
I had 2.5 gallons added 2,500 miles ago.Supposedly full then In about 3 weeks going to a secluded place in the mountains in Arkansas. No light to fill up. I would like to know before I leave If I need it. Like I said, Peace of mind.
Just say'n
Shane
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How long does it take for the def fluid,being almost full to thaw? For example hunting or way up in the mountains and my truck sits for 2 days at 27 degrees. Would there be any issues about starting and driving off? Would it go into Idle only mode until it thaws? Is there a seperate heater on the def tank when the truck is started?
Hmmmm...
Shane
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From: North of Salt Lake City
Ford figured this out. They included heating elements in the tank to avoid precisely this problem. The DEF will thaw in time for when it is needed. They also have a pump that withdraws the fluid from the lines each time the engine is turned off to make sure the lines won't freeze. That is the gurgling sound you hear when you shut down the truck.
Hotshot
Joined: Nov 2000
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From: Pflugerville, tx
I understand.. I am business justification kind a guy.. what I get to deal with all the time.. so a stated requirement needs to be understood.
Ford will need to understand the justification to develop a cost, which is design, manufacture, document and support..
I understand your use case, thank you.
For your use case with the existing equipment, I personally think for things like tools, you should carry a refresh supply with you. I bet you do that with oil & filters too. (I would)
And, it doesn't matter what I think.. I'm just asking questions, hopefully learning.
Sam
Ford will need to understand the justification to develop a cost, which is design, manufacture, document and support..
I understand your use case, thank you.
For your use case with the existing equipment, I personally think for things like tools, you should carry a refresh supply with you. I bet you do that with oil & filters too. (I would)
And, it doesn't matter what I think.. I'm just asking questions, hopefully learning.
Sam
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I understand.. I am business justification kind a guy.. what I get to deal with all the time.. so a stated requirement needs to be understood.
Ford will need to understand the justification to develop a cost, which is design, manufacture, document and support..
I understand your use case, thank you.
For your use case with the existing equipment, I personally think for things like tools, you should carry a refresh supply with you. I bet you do that with oil & filters too. (I would)
Sam
Ford will need to understand the justification to develop a cost, which is design, manufacture, document and support..
I understand your use case, thank you.
For your use case with the existing equipment, I personally think for things like tools, you should carry a refresh supply with you. I bet you do that with oil & filters too. (I would)
Sam
Not to beat this horse too much, heated/cooled seats are a requirement, dual temp controls,.etc.?..more of luxury items I'd say. The gauge on my part would be needed and appreciated. The less I lug around, equipment,tools the better.....Lets really go way out there. Lets say I brought 2.5 gallons and it's frozen.....but I wouldn't let it because you never know...It would be inside with me sleeping under the covers.
Not peace of mind. IMONot Necessarily standard equipment but an upgraded option would be nice. I know after the first year or so, I'll learn the pattern of this truck and it won't be any issue, but to newbies,which we all are it would be a great "option" bonus.
On a seperate note, Maybe I'm in the minority bracket.
Shane
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Shane,
I usually agree with you but I may be confused. The message center will tell you if you are above or below 1/2 full. Sometimes when mine actually says 1/2 full it will only take 2 gallons. If you are leaving on a trip and the tank is over half you can go 3000 miles. If it is under half, fill it and you can go more than 6500 miles. No need to carry any with you that I can see. That being said, I hear if you keep your DEF stash in the bathroom closet, no one knows it.
Regards
I usually agree with you but I may be confused. The message center will tell you if you are above or below 1/2 full. Sometimes when mine actually says 1/2 full it will only take 2 gallons. If you are leaving on a trip and the tank is over half you can go 3000 miles. If it is under half, fill it and you can go more than 6500 miles. No need to carry any with you that I can see. That being said, I hear if you keep your DEF stash in the bathroom closet, no one knows it.
Regards
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Shane,
I usually agree with you but I may be confused. The message center will tell you if you are above or below 1/2 full. Sometimes when mine actually says 1/2 full it will only take 2 gallons. If you are leaving on a trip and the tank is over half you can go 3000 miles. If it is under half, fill it and you can go more than 6500 miles. No need to carry any with you that I can see. That being said, I hear if you keep your DEF stash in the bathroom closet, no one knows it.
Regards
I usually agree with you but I may be confused. The message center will tell you if you are above or below 1/2 full. Sometimes when mine actually says 1/2 full it will only take 2 gallons. If you are leaving on a trip and the tank is over half you can go 3000 miles. If it is under half, fill it and you can go more than 6500 miles. No need to carry any with you that I can see. That being said, I hear if you keep your DEF stash in the bathroom closet, no one knows it.
Regards
Basically before I go anywhere I should top off....Like I said the gauge would be a nice option.
Shane
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Joined: Aug 2010
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From: Arizona
I see what you guys are saying but I would still rather have a gage that tells me the level of the DEF. They already have a sensor that monitors and reports when its half empty. Why can't they just update the software to show the level.
