Notices
1994.5 - 1997 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel  

Exhaust Back Pressure

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 14, 2010 | 11:19 AM
  #1  
redman84's Avatar
redman84
Thread Starter
|
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,526
Likes: 6
From: College Station, TX
Exhaust Back Pressure

My fuel mileage has dropped significantly recently. I had my codes ran several times before the tranny swap and here's what I got: A torque converter code(no more TC so no more code), some CPS codes(blah blah blah- fixed), and a P0472 which is Exhaust Pressure Sensor Circuit Low Input. Now for the questions.

Is that referring to the exhaust back pressure sensor attached to the HPOP? If so, I cleaned it and the tube as well as possible a couple months ago and still threw the code again. Could a problem with it affect my fuel trim thus decreasing fuel mileage? On page 10 of this link there are some diagnostic things but I don't even know how to translate it. http://www.motorcraftservice.com/vdi.../DOBDSM971.pdf
 
Reply
Old Jun 14, 2010 | 11:57 AM
  #2  
Talyn's Avatar
Talyn
Hotshot
20 Year Member
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 17,799
Likes: 103
From: Ashland City, TN
Wire the EPBV back and unplug it, see if that makes a difference.
 
Reply
Old Jun 14, 2010 | 03:52 PM
  #3  
redman84's Avatar
redman84
Thread Starter
|
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,526
Likes: 6
From: College Station, TX
Alright I'll give it a go. What do you mean by wire it back? And unplug the sensor at the top of the HPOP?
 
Reply
Old Jun 14, 2010 | 06:18 PM
  #4  
427 fordman's Avatar
427 fordman
Hotshot
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 10,408
Likes: 75
From: Plankinton, SD
The plug for the sensor is right by the turbo pedestal on the drivers side.
 
Reply
Old Jun 14, 2010 | 10:22 PM
  #5  
Dave Sponaugle's Avatar
Dave Sponaugle
Post Fiend
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 21,285
Likes: 15
From: Nutter Fort, WV
Club FTE Silver Member

From what I noticed on mine, that is an indication that the EBP sensor tube is blocked.

And I also discovered some spray brake cleaner does an excellent job cutting the soot, then some shop air to blow it clean.

No more code.
 
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2010 | 05:44 AM
  #6  
427 fordman's Avatar
427 fordman
Hotshot
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 10,408
Likes: 75
From: Plankinton, SD
Hey Dave, where is that tube at? I know I read about it before but I can't remember. I'd like to check mine too.
 
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2010 | 08:01 AM
  #7  
Talyn's Avatar
Talyn
Hotshot
20 Year Member
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 17,799
Likes: 103
From: Ashland City, TN
Yea, I keep forgetting about that thing you guys are talking about.

I've never had to mess with mine, Knock on wood.
 
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2010 | 08:29 AM
  #8  
redman84's Avatar
redman84
Thread Starter
|
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,526
Likes: 6
From: College Station, TX
Originally Posted by 427 fordman
Hey Dave, where is that tube at? I know I read about it before but I can't remember. I'd like to check mine too.
If you pull off the black plastic cover that is over your fuel bowl, GPR, HPOP, etc you can access it. It is a small metal line that runs from the EBP sensor and snakes between the alternator and HPOP down to the exhaust.

I've pulled and cleaned mine before. I used brake parts cleaner and weed trimmer line. It seemed to clean it really well but I still had the code afterward.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-3

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-5

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-9

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Jun 15, 2010 | 08:36 AM
  #9  
Talyn's Avatar
Talyn
Hotshot
20 Year Member
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 17,799
Likes: 103
From: Ashland City, TN
I'm tempted to clean that now. haha.
 
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2010 | 08:42 AM
  #10  
redman84's Avatar
redman84
Thread Starter
|
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,526
Likes: 6
From: College Station, TX
Originally Posted by Talyn
I'm tempted to clean that now. haha.
It's not terribly hard at all. You can also pull the sensor and do the same with it. If the line is dirty then chances are the sensor is too but be kind of ginger with it because it's not cheap.
 
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2010 | 10:32 AM
  #11  
redone1's Avatar
redone1
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 452
Likes: 0
From: Lizton, IN
Hey where can I buy one of these EBP sensor tubes?

I went out and looked at mine after reading this to realize it's cracked at one of the bends.
 
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2010 | 11:26 AM
  #12  
427 fordman's Avatar
427 fordman
Hotshot
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 10,408
Likes: 75
From: Plankinton, SD
Originally Posted by Talyn
I'm tempted to clean that now. haha.
That's what I was thinking.
 
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2010 | 12:25 PM
  #13  
RÖENTGEEP's Avatar
RÖENTGEEP
FOREIGN GURU
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 7,655
Likes: 7
From: Celaya, Gto. MX
Club FTE Silver Member

Wink

Originally Posted by redman84
If you pull off the black plastic cover that is over your fuel bowl, GPR, HPOP, etc you can access it. It is a small metal line that runs from the EBP sensor and snakes between the alternator and HPOP down to the exhaust.

I've pulled and cleaned mine before. I used brake parts cleaner and weed trimmer line. It seemed to clean it really well but I still had the code afterward.
Well I posted some time ago some pics of the sensor and in one of them you barely could see the tube, but it could be in front of the HPOP or between it and the alternator, both goes down to the exhaust in pass. side.

Originally Posted by redone1
Hey where can I buy one of these EBP sensor tubes?

I went out and looked at mine after reading this to realize it's cracked at one of the bends.

You can buy it in Ford dealer. IIRC Neal has the # part. Ill look for it.
 
Attached Images   
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2010 | 12:49 PM
  #14  
RÖENTGEEP's Avatar
RÖENTGEEP
FOREIGN GURU
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 7,655
Likes: 7
From: Celaya, Gto. MX
Club FTE Silver Member

Wink

Originally Posted by redone1
Hey where can I buy one of these EBP sensor tubes?

I went out and looked at mine after reading this to realize it's cracked at one of the bends.
Here are a pic of the tube with a hole and the # part, but be careful because for the sensor there are two numbers acording with the model year:
Exhaust Back Pressure Sensor<O</O
(Ford) F4TZ-9J460-A (94-96; mounts on bracket above oil reservoir)
(Ford) F7TZ-9J640-AA (97-up; may mount like earlier models, later in front of reservoir)
<O so I thik that the tube also has different # part, all depends if goes in front or back of the HPOP. The number in the pic if for 97-up (in front), stolen from Neals pics.</O
 
Attached Images   
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2010 | 12:49 PM
  #15  
redman84's Avatar
redman84
Thread Starter
|
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,526
Likes: 6
From: College Station, TX
Well after some digression I'm still curious how to wire the EBPV back? Also, what all goes into gutting it and have yall found any negatives to doing it?
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:09 PM.

story-0
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-2
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-4
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-6
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-8
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE