Notices
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks 1987 - 1996 Ford F-150, F-250, F-350 and larger pickups - including the 1997 heavy-duty F250/F350+ trucks

Gauge temp sensor replacement

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 11, 2010 | 11:24 PM
  #1  
Roader's Avatar
Roader
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 111
Likes: 0
From: Denver
Gauge temp sensor replacement

I mistakenly posted a question at on the '80 - '86 forum for this problem and the guys there helped me out. Short story is that for my '88 F-250 4.9/M5OD, the Ford dealer's gauge temp sensor, #F1SZ10884A, and NAPA's and Advance Auto's sensors don't work; the resistance is too high. With those sensors the gauge needle won't ever touch the "N" in NORMAL, even in 90F+ ambient temps. I did find a sensor that works better, a Borg Warner (BWD at O'Reilly's/Checker) #WT386. That sensor reads at "O" when the 195F thermostat opens.

The longer story is that I pulled the temperature/voltmeter cluster and hooked it up to a 12.5vdc power supply and a pot. This is what I got (N, R, and L are the letters in the middle of the gauge: NORMAL.)

C: 32 ohms
N: 20 ohms
R: 18 ohms
L: 14 ohms
H: 8 ohms

I realize that my gauge might be the cause of the problem but these readings are pretty linear so I'm not replacing the gauge. The Ford sensor and the other sensors read > 300 ohms at room temp. Too high. There is another Borg Warner sensor that would probably work even better, #WT324, but the stud size is 10-24 instead of 8-32 and I don't want to have to adapt it; the sensor is too tough to get at to be messing around with it. I found this info at a Ford diesel site F250 4BT Buildup I might play around with putting some resistance in parallel with the sensor lead behind the gauge to get the 195F thermostat opening sitting right in the middle at "R".

I don't want to get an aftermarket gauge because lots of different people are going to be driving the truck, people who don't know anything about cars, and I'll be 10 hours away while they're driving it. I want the truck to look bone stock. Two temp gauges would be a distraction for them.
 
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2010 | 01:34 AM
  #2  
DreadyDiggs's Avatar
DreadyDiggs
Senior User
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 374
Likes: 0
From: Portsmouth, Va
I noticed my cluster also is at operating temp before the N. So I swapped clusters first, didn't change anything. Oil pressure gauge now reads higher than it used to, and with a new oil sending unit I'm guessing my old cluster was worn to some extent.

I have yet to swap the coolant temp sending unit, but I did swap the ECT sensor. That of course doesn't factor in with the gauge reading but when it failed an ohm test I replaced it. I don't think I'm gonna bother with that coolant temp gauge. I also have a 180 stat in my truck so until I switch it back it'll be off anyways.

You know what I'd do? Tell them don't even worry about the temp gauge, it's broke, just drive haha.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Roader
1980 - 1986 Bullnose F100, F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
24
Jul 21, 2024 08:27 AM
erikkloss
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
30
Jan 13, 2016 11:17 AM
Hussler
1994.5 - 1997 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
6
Sep 27, 2013 05:57 PM
rongfos
1983 - 2012 Ranger & B-Series
6
Jan 14, 2010 02:37 AM
joners
Explorer, Sport Trac, Mountaineer & Aviator
4
Apr 2, 2006 02:29 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:04 AM.

story-0
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-6
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-7
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-8
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE