Valvoline users? Opinions?
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I have been changing my own oil for 20 years and oddly I have never tried Valvoline dino. It seems to be well spoken of here and the numbers on the data sheets look good. I also talked to their tech line and its a group 2 and 3 hydrocracked base oil. I like the fact they are based in home state of KY. Opinions? Thanks.
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I've used Valvoline 'All Fleet Plus' 15w40 and thought it was pretty good stuff. I've used their 10w30 too which was rebranded for NAPA. I think Valvoline is a good brand and I don't think I've ever heard any complaint with data to back it up.
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the best mechanic I know has used valvoline exclusively for our cars for hundreds of thousands of miles and we have yet to wear out an engine. but, these were imported cars so I can't say from experience how well it will work in a Ford pickup.
The cars would be removed from service when they were wrecked, rusted out, the transmission wore out, or in one case, it just got so old the interior was almost entirely rotted / worn out of it.
The cars would be removed from service when they were wrecked, rusted out, the transmission wore out, or in one case, it just got so old the interior was almost entirely rotted / worn out of it.
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Many years ago, we moved our truck repairs to "in shop" and were doing our own repairs. At that time we were using Valvoline and the oil was not changed on any regular basis. We observed massive amounts of sludge and changed brands which eliminated the problem. So in fairness to Valvoline, we did not change oil regularly and this was years ago. As a note of interest for you, in tests run by Shaeffer Labs on VIRGIN oil, Walmarts Super Tech dino, SL, 5w-30 rated higher than Valvoline. Walmart oil is now supplied by Warren Distr. and their spec sheet can be seen at
www.wd-wpp.com/specsheet/motoroil.pdf
I also wouldn't put Walmart oil in my lawnmower.
www.wd-wpp.com/specsheet/motoroil.pdf
I also wouldn't put Walmart oil in my lawnmower.
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I also had a sludge problem with Valvoline. However, this was 30 years ago in air-cooled VW's that have no filter or pcv valve. Additive packages have changed several times since then. I have used Valvoline engine oil, ATF, gear oil, grease and brake fluid over the last few years with no problems. Valvoline Racing was my favorite motorcycle oil.
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Well Horsepuller, I guess I'm not smart enough to post a chart because it gets scrammbled between typing it and the preview. I will list each one separtely and on separate posts. The Valvoline is the All Climate, 5w-30, SL,GF-3, virgin oil, never seen a motor. Only items with values will appear. Items with zero values will not appear.
TBN 10.5
VIS@212F 61.4SUS
Flash Point 425
Insoluables Trace
Silicon 2
Sodium 2
Calcium 1549
Magnesium 4
Phos. 699
Zinc 811
Barium 1
I don't have the minimum pour point on the Valvoline. Not much in the way of an additive package for the Valvoline.
TBN 10.5
VIS@212F 61.4SUS
Flash Point 425
Insoluables Trace
Silicon 2
Sodium 2
Calcium 1549
Magnesium 4
Phos. 699
Zinc 811
Barium 1
I don't have the minimum pour point on the Valvoline. Not much in the way of an additive package for the Valvoline.
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Horsepuller, this one is on your oil. Valvoline All Fleet Plus 15w-40 CH-4/SJ. Again, virgin oil out of the bottle and items with zero values are not listed
TBN 9.99
Silicon 1
Boron 96
Magnesium 280
Calcium 2599
Phos. 1083
Zinc 1209
Moly 100
A much better additive package than the All Climate but I would have concerns about the TBN. Of course it probably doesn't matter as I am sure you change your oil often. Interesting is the Moly since Valvoline has not been active in promoting it in their products. Hope you find this interesting.
TBN 9.99
Silicon 1
Boron 96
Magnesium 280
Calcium 2599
Phos. 1083
Zinc 1209
Moly 100
A much better additive package than the All Climate but I would have concerns about the TBN. Of course it probably doesn't matter as I am sure you change your oil often. Interesting is the Moly since Valvoline has not been active in promoting it in their products. Hope you find this interesting.
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Walmart Super Tech 5w-30, GF-3, SL, virgin oil.
TBN 10.5
Flash Point 435
Moly 55
Calcium 1934
Magnesium 4
Phos. 1122
Zinc 1090
The Walmart oil in this comparison has a better additive package, not necessarily a lot but better than the Valvoline. Note use of Moly and slightly higher Flash Point.
TBN 10.5
Flash Point 435
Moly 55
Calcium 1934
Magnesium 4
Phos. 1122
Zinc 1090
The Walmart oil in this comparison has a better additive package, not necessarily a lot but better than the Valvoline. Note use of Moly and slightly higher Flash Point.
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Wal mart cant screw up something they don't make. I have been using Vavoline Max-Life 10w30 in my 79 F150 351M for a while and it still lays down the rubber. I have no complaints although my gas consumption has gone way up, this has been sinnce I changed the oil and I have no idea why it went up. I only drive about 4 miles per day and a full tank lasts me about two weeks (10 days) it used to go a month. The motor is bone stock minus the plugs, wires, and coil, alternator, water pump, the basic replacements.
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Flash, excellent contribution. Thanks for sharing your data with us. You've really done your homework.
I did notice the TBN on the All Fleet Plus was a little lower. The TBN of Chevron Delo 400 15w40 is 12.5, which was what I usually used before I substituted the All Fleet. I wonder if that would really be considered low in a practical application, or if the two 5w30 oils are just a little overkill. I thought that the TBN for oils rated for gasoline engines only was usually around 6.0-7.0.
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I did notice the TBN on the All Fleet Plus was a little lower. The TBN of Chevron Delo 400 15w40 is 12.5, which was what I usually used before I substituted the All Fleet. I wonder if that would really be considered low in a practical application, or if the two 5w30 oils are just a little overkill. I thought that the TBN for oils rated for gasoline engines only was usually around 6.0-7.0.
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Horsepuller. Virgin oil report on Delo 400, 15w-40, SL/CI-4, same as the above for listed items.
TBN 10.63
Iron 1
Magnesium 23
Calcium 3343
Phos. 1116
Zinc 1376
While the Delo has been a favorite of mine for years, your All Fleet Plus has a better lubricating package via the boron and moly. I would suspect the the TBN differences would be attributed to the base stock used but I also don't have that info. I get paranoid about single digit TBNs. If it goes in single digit, it's coming out single digit. I like more room than that. Also of interest, during my rersearch I have found that it is acceptable,apparently, for manufacturers to miss their own oil spec by as much as 10%. I wonder if I missed my gas card payment by 10% if that would be acceptable.
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TBN 10.63
Iron 1
Magnesium 23
Calcium 3343
Phos. 1116
Zinc 1376
While the Delo has been a favorite of mine for years, your All Fleet Plus has a better lubricating package via the boron and moly. I would suspect the the TBN differences would be attributed to the base stock used but I also don't have that info. I get paranoid about single digit TBNs. If it goes in single digit, it's coming out single digit. I like more room than that. Also of interest, during my rersearch I have found that it is acceptable,apparently, for manufacturers to miss their own oil spec by as much as 10%. I wonder if I missed my gas card payment by 10% if that would be acceptable.
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Flash, thanks for the additional info. I think that it's the calcium additive that's supposed to give the increased TBN.
I'll surprised that the DELO TBN is lower than what's listed on the manufacturer's spec sheet. Though I know from working in a fuel refinery that data can vary as long as it fits into the upper and lower ranges of the specifications. I think the spec's provided by manufacturer's are usually based on averages, not the minimum requirement. Unless it's stated as a meeting an API, ASTM or engine manufacturer's specification.
I like your gas card analogy.
Scott
I'll surprised that the DELO TBN is lower than what's listed on the manufacturer's spec sheet. Though I know from working in a fuel refinery that data can vary as long as it fits into the upper and lower ranges of the specifications. I think the spec's provided by manufacturer's are usually based on averages, not the minimum requirement. Unless it's stated as a meeting an API, ASTM or engine manufacturer's specification.
I like your gas card analogy.
Scott
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