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Unclejunk, it would seem to me that this fourm may not be exactly what you are looking for. You may be happier checking out Pirate. If it was your intent to bash everyone on here I think you have done a good job on it. Rarely does anyone run loader axles on a "truck". There are a few good reasons for it. Price, weight, availablity, and the like. If you choose to run them please, post up the work and the fabrication that it takes. Some of us could learn from what you are doing and maybe even apply some of your ideas to our own rigs. But, please keep from bashing everyone on the forum. Thanks.