DPF Delete Question?
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Yes, I am going to remove the Cat/Dpf and just run the DPF-R electronics.
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So we are back in the same place. In order to improve the economy and performance we have to, at a minimum delete the DPF and disable regen. Which breaks a federal law and voids the warranty. I'm not too worried about the law because enforcement is vested in the AG and he's busy with real crime and stuff, but I am not willing to void the warranty. I would not delete the DPF and use a programmer and then try to replace and reprogram if I had a problem. Just not built that way. Not critizing those who would, I just wouldn't. Besides, I don't believe for a minute that there isn't a trace of evidence left on the truck computer when it's deprogrammed. Ford had to anticipate tuners being created for these trucks and built in some way of detecting their use. The average tech might not know how to get it but I feel sure there is someone at Ford that can. There is also the problem of it failing on the road where you can't get it home to replace and reprogram. So whats it cost to replace a motor, 10K dollars? And you end up with the same problem we have now except you're 10K poorer. No thanks. If I keep mine it stays stock and I buy the extended warranty for 2 grand or so.
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So we are back in the same place. In order to improve the economy and performance we have to, at a minimum delete the DPF and disable regen. Which breaks a federal law and voids the warranty. I'm not too worried about the law because enforcement is vested in the AG and he's busy with real crime and stuff, but I am not willing to void the warranty. I would not delete the DPF and use a programmer and then try to replace and reprogram if I had a problem. Just not built that way. Not critizing those who would, I just wouldn't. Besides, I don't believe for a minute that there isn't a trace of evidence left on the truck computer when it's deprogrammed. Ford had to anticipate tuners being created for these trucks and built in some way of detecting their use. The average tech might not know how to get it but I feel sure there is someone at Ford that can. There is also the problem of it failing on the road where you can't get it home to replace and reprogram. So whats it cost to replace a motor, 10K dollars? And you end up with the same problem we have now except you're 10K poorer. No thanks. If I keep mine it stays stock and I buy the extended warranty for 2 grand or so.
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Yeah, 1000 mile oil changes. That's what I said above, I'll be back to the fifties, except then oil was 20 cents a quart. lol
Problem is if we keep these trucks long term and the diluted oil is causing early engine failures we won't be able to give them away in 5 years or so. I have seen a couple guys on here with 150 or 160 thousand miles and they seem to be still going, so maybe there is hope. I spent the past 8 years on the 7.3L forum where 350-400 thousand was common place. This is a real change. Kinda like the real change in the government. Don't care much for either one but it looks like I'm gonna have to put up with them.
Problem is if we keep these trucks long term and the diluted oil is causing early engine failures we won't be able to give them away in 5 years or so. I have seen a couple guys on here with 150 or 160 thousand miles and they seem to be still going, so maybe there is hope. I spent the past 8 years on the 7.3L forum where 350-400 thousand was common place. This is a real change. Kinda like the real change in the government. Don't care much for either one but it looks like I'm gonna have to put up with them.
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So Stanley if you do the DPF/Cat delete and use the software that just bypasses the regen/EGR, would you have a problem bringing the truck in for warranty work based on your own values? I look at it this way. I am running the 275hp tune, and if I have an issue that is directly related to the aggressive tune then I would not expect Ford to cover the bill. I, personally am willing to take that risk (some people are not which is totally understandable). However, if my truck needs warranty work that has nothing to do with my tune (such as a radiator leak) then I have no problem taking the tune out, swapping the pipes and bringing it in. The Magnuson Moss Act protects us in this case... the dealer cannot deny warranty work on a radiator if a consumer has a tuner. The dealer is not allowed to deny the warranty on unrelated repairs... end of story.
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give them a call rulon is the man very helpfull i put in there dpf r pipe and 4.0 today started at 12 45 and finished at 2 15 complete air tools of course and by myself the worst was staying in the truck for 25 min in 85 degree weather bring a phone, water, and some thing to do they told me everything needs to be off windows up and dont open door while programing so your caged but down load was easy and smooth I prob should have killed the cat to if you want more turbo noise but does sound better with stock exaust there full exaust system does have a muff dont remem brand ina couple days il have more input and prob some questions
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So Stanley if you do the DPF/Cat delete and use the software that just bypasses the regen/EGR, would you have a problem bringing the truck in for warranty work based on your own values? I look at it this way. I am running the 275hp tune, and if I have an issue that is directly related to the aggressive tune then I would not expect Ford to cover the bill. I, personally am willing to take that risk (some people are not which is totally understandable). However, if my truck needs warranty work that has nothing to do with my tune (such as a radiator leak) then I have no problem taking the tune out, swapping the pipes and bringing it in. The Magnuson Moss Act protects us in this case... the dealer cannot deny warranty work on a radiator if a consumer has a tuner. The dealer is not allowed to deny the warranty on unrelated repairs... end of story.
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give them a call rulon is the man very helpfull i put in there dpf r pipe and 4.0 today started at 12 45 and finished at 2 15 complete air tools of course and by myself the worst was staying in the truck for 25 min in 85 degree weather bring a phone, water, and some thing to do they told me everything needs to be off windows up and dont open door while programing so your caged but down load was easy and smooth I prob should have killed the cat to if you want more turbo noise but does sound better with stock exaust there full exaust system does have a muff dont remem brand ina couple days il have more input and prob some questions
My DPF/CAT delete pipe and 4.0 are on the way now. How hard was it to connect the 4.0?
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And as far as dealerships, I have lucked out. I was recommended to go to a place here on LI, and they take good care of me. On the 6.0 they did all warranty work I needed (which was a lot of work) even though i had a tuner and straight pipe exhaust. Every time I go in there I bring them in a dozen donuts and some coffee. Keeping these guys on my side is extremely important. The only problem with the 6.4 is that I haven't had to go to the dealership at all! I can't maintain a relationship if I never see them!
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Ya... and that is down time that we all can't afford. When such a capable vehicle is in the shop it is not working for us. Whether it is a snowplow contract, moving machines, pulling commercial trailers, or just pulling a 5th wheel on a vacation. It really is amazing when you think about all these trucks do for us.... damn I love this truck!
And as far as dealerships, I have lucked out. I was recommended to go to a place here on LI, and they take good care of me. On the 6.0 they did all warranty work I needed (which was a lot of work) even though i had a tuner and straight pipe exhaust. Every time I go in there I bring them in a dozen donuts and some coffee. Keeping these guys on my side is extremely important. The only problem with the 6.4 is that I haven't had to go to the dealership at all! I can't maintain a relationship if I never see them!
And as far as dealerships, I have lucked out. I was recommended to go to a place here on LI, and they take good care of me. On the 6.0 they did all warranty work I needed (which was a lot of work) even though i had a tuner and straight pipe exhaust. Every time I go in there I bring them in a dozen donuts and some coffee. Keeping these guys on my side is extremely important. The only problem with the 6.4 is that I haven't had to go to the dealership at all! I can't maintain a relationship if I never see them!
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On my 09' F250 I am running the Spartan 275hp tune that I monitor closely with the Dashdaq. I installed a ceramic coated 4" down pipe that hooks into the DPF/Cat delete pipe. Everything after the delete pipe is stock. I personally love the stock tips, and they always polish up like brand new. I also have a AFE stage 2 intake which added a little bit of whistle under the hood. I think it may have helped with allowing a quicker spool up time on the turbo. Overall, there was a nice increase in exhaust noise, while it significantly decreased the EGT's. I also did some nice stereo mods, but I won't get into that
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So Stanley if you do the DPF/Cat delete and use the software that just bypasses the regen/EGR, would you have a problem bringing the truck in for warranty work based on your own values? I look at it this way. I am running the 275hp tune, and if I have an issue that is directly related to the aggressive tune then I would not expect Ford to cover the bill. I, personally am willing to take that risk (some people are not which is totally understandable). However, if my truck needs warranty work that has nothing to do with my tune (such as a radiator leak) then I have no problem taking the tune out, swapping the pipes and bringing it in. The Magnuson Moss Act protects us in this case... the dealer cannot deny warranty work on a radiator if a consumer has a tuner. The dealer is not allowed to deny the warranty on unrelated repairs... end of story.
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okay im mad just bought my 2008 figured it was from my state were i live and its last owner lived in mo and i have to get it inspected for title change. well ive installed dpf delete pipe,strobes which are in reverse tail lense and so on anybody know if i should undo my progress before i take in for state inspection or are they just looking at serial num and milage
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On my 09' F250 I am running the Spartan 275hp tune that I monitor closely with the Dashdaq. I installed a ceramic coated 4" down pipe that hooks into the DPF/Cat delete pipe. Everything after the delete pipe is stock. I personally love the stock tips, and they always polish up like brand new. I also have a AFE stage 2 intake which added a little bit of whistle under the hood. I think it may have helped with allowing a quicker spool up time on the turbo. Overall, there was a nice increase in exhaust noise, while it significantly decreased the EGT's. I also did some nice stereo mods, but I won't get into that
Hope these questions make sense and if not I'll give it another shot.