Intake Leaking Issues
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take it to a welder, and have it heliarcked, then take it to a machine shop, and have it planed back to true, will cost less than a new one, and be just as good. sorry that happened to you. food for thought, I have seen this a lot on here, be careful, and use a torque wrench to prevent it from happening again
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If you have a straight edge in that short a distance from the end you can file that tab back to where it belongs. One more observation, you gasket looks awful thick, the original Ford gasket was much thinner. That may have contributed to the break. Also torque it down from the center out. kotzy
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Sorry to hear that/see that, AB. When I was out at Cliffords, I noticed they sell packets of hardened washers, one over-size to sit against the manifold that can be positioned as tightened, and a smaller one against the bolt head/nut.
I wanted to throw something out there, for what it is worth: I am currently working with copper flashing, flat, straight copper stock. I wonder how difficult it would be to trace a gasket onto the copper and use it as a gasket? I believe I will use it the next time I have manifold off. What do you guys think?
Good luck....
I wanted to throw something out there, for what it is worth: I am currently working with copper flashing, flat, straight copper stock. I wonder how difficult it would be to trace a gasket onto the copper and use it as a gasket? I believe I will use it the next time I have manifold off. What do you guys think?
Good luck....
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I'll call around to some shops and see what they'll charge to fix it.
This is the gasket I was using:
Clifford Performance: FORD 240-300/4.9 Header/Intake Gasket
It doesn't have a picture in that link, but you can see it in this one:
Clifford Performance: Ford Truck Headers 1980-90
I had checked the entire manifold with a straight edge before installation. I also used a torque wrench, followed the bolt pattern in my Chiltons, and torqued every bolt to the required 26 ft/lbs in 5 lbs increments. It shouldn't have happened. The gasket split and caused the tab to fold in. I'll be writing them about it.
Not sure on the copper there F-250, but it sounds like a cool idea. I haven't worked with copper so I'm not sure how easy it is to trace and cut something out of it, but I imagine it'd seal pretty nice since it's a soft metal. Maybe the only way to find out is to try it? =P
This is the gasket I was using:
Clifford Performance: FORD 240-300/4.9 Header/Intake Gasket
It doesn't have a picture in that link, but you can see it in this one:
Clifford Performance: Ford Truck Headers 1980-90
I had checked the entire manifold with a straight edge before installation. I also used a torque wrench, followed the bolt pattern in my Chiltons, and torqued every bolt to the required 26 ft/lbs in 5 lbs increments. It shouldn't have happened. The gasket split and caused the tab to fold in. I'll be writing them about it.
Not sure on the copper there F-250, but it sounds like a cool idea. I haven't worked with copper so I'm not sure how easy it is to trace and cut something out of it, but I imagine it'd seal pretty nice since it's a soft metal. Maybe the only way to find out is to try it? =P
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From: Lost
While you are getting that broken tab repaired, might as well get the other tab enlarged a bit. Kill 2 birds with one shot. The washer not holding that side tightly *could* have been part of the reason the other side broke.
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From: southeren Oh
Just get a big washer that won't fit and grind away untill it does fit.
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Agreed. Simplest solution.
That's a nasty break AB. Almost makes you wish these manifolds were cast iron
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Did you have to soak the Clifford gasket? The one I got with my headers said to soak in water, torque to spec, let dry and do not retorque or it would crack. I take that to mean it's not reusable either.
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Oh well, talked with a local shop. They don't give estimates, but the guy said "Shouldn't be a big deal, I deal with that all day long." At least that's encouraging.
It would be nice if they were cast iron.
If he charges too much extra for widening that tab, I'll just get some hardened washers and grind them.
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hey AB, soz to see the offy look'n like that and hope it's a cheap fix for you and all goes great
I poked around on Ebay some and see you can get those vette hold downs single at 20 bucks and some 6 packs at 40-60
I have the same gasket and attached a piccy of the water soak part for you that came with mine.... seemed odd to me when I read that but is what I will do.
I thank you sir for post'n this info up as it has helped me and any info like this on mods and tricks to them is great for people like me who are 6 steps behind you
wonder if that was the prob with your tune and MPG issue's?
I poked around on Ebay some and see you can get those vette hold downs single at 20 bucks and some 6 packs at 40-60
I have the same gasket and attached a piccy of the water soak part for you that came with mine.... seemed odd to me when I read that but is what I will do.
I thank you sir for post'n this info up as it has helped me and any info like this on mods and tricks to them is great for people like me who are 6 steps behind you
wonder if that was the prob with your tune and MPG issue's?
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I suppose I've avoided enough disasters from learning from someone else, it's time I be the forerunner. 
I hope it's an easy fix because that's a bummer.
I don't imagine it's much to do with my mpg though since I just put the gasket on for the first time a week or two ago. Before that, it was a stock gasket.
I wish I had had those instructions. I didn't have them with mine since I had someone give it to me. Looks like it was good to know...
I hope it's an easy fix because that's a bummer.
I don't imagine it's much to do with my mpg though since I just put the gasket on for the first time a week or two ago. Before that, it was a stock gasket.
I wish I had had those instructions. I didn't have them with mine since I had someone give it to me. Looks like it was good to know...
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Sorry to hear that/see that, AB. When I was out at Cliffords, I noticed they sell packets of hardened washers, one over-size to sit against the manifold that can be positioned as tightened, and a smaller one against the bolt head/nut.
I wanted to throw something out there, for what it is worth: I am currently working with copper flashing, flat, straight copper stock. I wonder how difficult it would be to trace a gasket onto the copper and use it as a gasket? I believe I will use it the next time I have manifold off. What do you guys think?
Good luck....
I wanted to throw something out there, for what it is worth: I am currently working with copper flashing, flat, straight copper stock. I wonder how difficult it would be to trace a gasket onto the copper and use it as a gasket? I believe I will use it the next time I have manifold off. What do you guys think?
Good luck....
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From: Lawrence Swamp
I doubt they'll do anything about it
Plez, go fer it anyway. U never know. And if you're 'nice' U may get another (2 sell!).
broken tabs
If they heat (an oven) the whole assmbly 1st, and tig it (I've heard).
Plez, go fer it anyway. U never know. And if you're 'nice' U may get another (2 sell!).
broken tabs
If they heat (an oven) the whole assmbly 1st, and tig it (I've heard).