[updated:LAST EDITED ON 28-Oct-02 AT 12:14 PM (EST)]Chuck 6083,

Actually, I was having a little bit of a bad day. I was getting upset over more school system spending for B.S.(like sports) and let it carry over. I was stereotyping, but I really don't think a lot of pro sports players do much after sports. I am sure some do, but I don't think most do. Many get through college with sub-standard grades because they generate revenue for the school. As for him being in 11th grade, his writing and spelling skills should be better, but because life revolves around sports, that won't matter. I would agree that any sport one attempts may be difficult, and that it does give you some desirable traits that you pointed to, such as balance and agility. I think the drive for most is that they think they will get a chance to play pro. I wasn't criticizing the reason to play or practice, but describing something enjoyable, though difficult, as he!!, just makes it seem like you don't want to do it, but you have to. I am a little biased against school sports because, as a public institution, all that want to play should be given the opportunity, and that isn't the way it is. My tax dollars support school sports, as do the tax dollars of thousands of parents in my school system, yet only a handful are allowed to play. This is teaching the kids that you have to be the best athlete just to enjoy the sport. If you're not the best, you can't play. It's supposed to teach teamwork and sportsmanship, but it teaches them that sportsmanship is a joke. That is more in tune with a private league, and therefore, should be pay to play.

I also don't want my post to seem like a personal attack, so I apologize for the rather rough way it was written.

By the way, do you have any Prozac?

 

[updated:LAST EDITED ON 28-Oct-02 AT 01:08 PM (EST)]All sports teach discipline, concentration amd physical agility. Just because a race car driver sits on his but and steers a machine through time & space, does that make him any less than the athelete that lines up on a scrimage line and uses all his skills and ability to help a team accomplish a certain goal.

There is a difference in team sport participation and individual sport participation. Maybe that is where some of the agitation in the previous posts has arisen. The skateboarder has a individual concentration NOT connected to a team goal. It is his individual goal. I am sure that skateboarders can band together as a team, but there certainly is not a execution of play strategy as in basketball, hockey, or football. Take surfing for example, it is the individual vs mother nature(the wave). There is no team strategy. Skateboarding was born from surfing. I can remember when I was a surfer in the early 60's, we used primitive skateboards to amuse ourselves during waveless days, or after the sun went down. I would recommend a film by Bruce Brown, of California, made during the 60's. It shows early skateboarders and how they took all of their moves from surfers. I would say that today's skateboarders are indeed an athelete. They have to exhibit, concentration,
skill, and discipline as well. You can easily break a bone in skateboarding, probably easier than in football.

In summary, all sports require concentration, skill, and discipline.
It does no good to say that one is harder to play than another. All sports require the above, and it is silly and immature to try and say one is harder than another. It is a debate for the dustbin!:-)

 

damn, high school doesn't mean a damn thing. personally i thought high school was a waste of time. btw, if you think football is hard, you should try cross country.

 

Cross COuntry, are you serious?? HAHAHAHA that is the funniest thing I have heard all night! Our football team runs just as much as our CC team, But while running you are also hitting people and running wih the ball and have to think about what you are going to do. I dont understand why people dont think football is a hard sport, You have to be skilled in many areas to play, let alone you put up with a bunch of ##### from the coaches.

Dayton

 

You're my hero, Dayton. I'm sure that everybody who runs cross country wishes they were as tuff as you too. Football rules, we should make attendance to HS football games mandatory for all students, and they should all carry you on and off the field, because nobody, not even anybody, works as hard as football players. Did you even read the other posts?

I'll repeat it for you: respect others, or they'll never respect you.

'77 F100, 302 (the aftermarket Prodigy), C4
Cadet Second Lieutenant John F. Daly III
South Carolina Corps of Cadets, The Citadel
The TorqueKing

 

Hey man, I didn't mean for it to seem that way, I am just sick of people in our school who criticize the football team. When every football player in our school works 10 times harder than anyone else on and off of the field. I know people like different things, i would just like to get some respect for the things that we accomplish on and off of the field. And is unfair because instead of praising us all of the echers crack down on us b/c they dont want us to have it as easy as other students

 

Your football team runs as much as your cross country team? That just means that your cross country team sucks. i know you don't run as much a real cross country team. unless you mean to tell me that on your long days you run 10-13 miles continuously, then the rest of the week you run no less than 5 miles a day. i know most people don't think CC takes any skill, but these are people that haven't tried it. by no means am i saying that football is easy, i played free safety for two years. but coming from somebody thats been in both places, CC is harder. btw, our cc coach used to be a football coach and has said the same.

just curious, how much does your cc team run?

-j

 

[updated:LAST EDITED ON 30-Oct-02 AT 12:49 PM (EST)]Many of you guys just don't get it. It seems to me that the only reason one is trying to make one sport look better than another is because one has to make themselves feel better at the expense of another. Why then the comparison, if not for any other reason?

All sports are good for the mind & body. There is no one sport any harder than another unless you call playing chess a sport. Even chess requires a vast amount of experience and skill in the game to be good at it. There is just no physical element to the game. All you smart guys should play 3 dimensional chess to see how skilled in perception you really are. What I don't get is why people spend a inordinate amount of their valuable time arguing in such a silly and trivial thread!

Why don't you guys just call it a draw and go practice your favorite sport. If you used the same amount of energy expended in this thread and applied it to your game, I am sure you will improve your performance.
I am going back to practice mine.

 

You know, XC is the only sport in which it takes two ***** to compete

Seriously, nobody is doubting that football is challenging. However, when you make statements like "our football team runs just as much as the XC team" you're not helping your cause. Wind sprints and slogging through 4 miles at some crappy slow pace does not qualify as a good XC workout. There are sandbaggers in all sports, but rest assured that the dedicated XC guys work just as hard as the dedicated football guys. IMO there isn't a sport with a more direct work-success relationship than XC. If you wanna be good you gotta bust your azz.

 

Our cc team is actually good, although only 1 kid made it to states this year. See, we do run just as much as them, We run like 2 miles during practice. And it is not at a slow pace, our coach is very demanding, if we are not practicing to his potential, we stop practice and do either burndown sprints or this thing called a chicago bear workout. you bear crawl to the 5 sprint to the 50 sprint back the the goal line bear crawl to the 10 sprint to the 50 and sprint back to the gl and so on, every 5 yards the whole way up the field, now that requires endurance. We do this almost every day, and if we dont do it hard enough, we do it again. then we continue with practice until the end then we do 12 100 yard sprints, 10 220 yd sprints, or a 2 mile run. Our coaches say that endurance is the key to winning games. so we condition just as much as our cross team does.

 

To heck with Football AND skateboarding, they mean nothing. Join the Marines and become something you can really be proud of.

 

Hoo-rah. Semper Fidelis, Rocky. I'm not a Marine, but of all the services, they do the best job for the funding they receive, and everyone on earth knows about our Beloved Marine Corps! The Army can only be jealous, when you need the job done right, and NO BS, there's only one service that does it right. From a non-partisan outsider, I'd say to you and all other United States Marines: Much respect, you do a great service for your country, and for that we (the citizens of this fine nation) are thankful! Carry on, hard-charger! TK

Cadet Second Lieutenant John F. Daly III
South Carolina Corps of Cadets, The Citadel
The TorqueKing