F1 Hub Cap Question...
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F1 Hub Cap Question...
Recently I found what I hoped would be a good replacement for a rather dented up cap for my F1. I have three good caps, but after cleaning, smoothing and polishing this 4th cap I found, I began to notice some differences. The photos show all that, and what I'm hoping to find out is which is stock for a 48 F1, or are all these variations from the repro folk.
I would like to eventually find a 4th cap that truly matches the good 3 I have. Hopefully someone has knowledge of what the differences mean on these caps, and can explain what I need to be looking for.
Thanks in advance......
RG in Spokane
The above photo shows the two styles ... the left being one of the 3 I had to begin with, supposedly stock originals??
The above photo shows the inner mounting rings. The left is much heavier and about 1/8" deeper.
This last photo shows the most significant difference .... the overall height.
I would like to eventually find a 4th cap that truly matches the good 3 I have. Hopefully someone has knowledge of what the differences mean on these caps, and can explain what I need to be looking for.
Thanks in advance......
RG in Spokane
The above photo shows the two styles ... the left being one of the 3 I had to begin with, supposedly stock originals??
The above photo shows the inner mounting rings. The left is much heavier and about 1/8" deeper.
This last photo shows the most significant difference .... the overall height.
Last edited by robertr; May 6, 2010 at 10:36 PM. Reason: Photo fix
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Well for as long as these have been reproduced, I can't help but wonder if certain companies that make wheels are reproing the caps a little bit differently to fit there wheels - US made and Imports???!!!???
Also, I haven't looked into it so this is just speculation, but I have noticed that a lot of things that got put on trucks were used on cars a few years earlier. Maybe the diff here is between a car and truck hub cab or different repro people.
Here's a pic of a 47 car with the same caps as out trucks:
Also, I haven't looked into it so this is just speculation, but I have noticed that a lot of things that got put on trucks were used on cars a few years earlier. Maybe the diff here is between a car and truck hub cab or different repro people.
Here's a pic of a 47 car with the same caps as out trucks:
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Thanks Julie,
I think you are very likely quite right about the various repro outfits having their own take on how to make these caps. I know that several outlets (Wheel Vintique being one) show these for both pickups and some cars. Some folk on the HAMB have said that certain repros don't fit well unless you also have the wheel the company sells.
I'm just hoping I can find a 4th cap that matches the 3 good ones I have. Maybe someone that has found a good cap repro will be able to match up to the photos I've provided and suggest where to get the one I need.
RG
I think you are very likely quite right about the various repro outfits having their own take on how to make these caps. I know that several outlets (Wheel Vintique being one) show these for both pickups and some cars. Some folk on the HAMB have said that certain repros don't fit well unless you also have the wheel the company sells.
I'm just hoping I can find a 4th cap that matches the 3 good ones I have. Maybe someone that has found a good cap repro will be able to match up to the photos I've provided and suggest where to get the one I need.
RG
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This is a late 1947...which uses 6A-1130-A hubcaps with blue FORD block letters, These hubcaps were also used on 1948's and 1948/52 F1's.
1953/56 F100 hubcaps (BAAA1130A or B3C1130A) look similar to 6A's, but are not as deep. This is why the OP has a mis-matched hupcap. The FORD letters were painted red.
These hubcaps were not used on Passenger Cars.
Early '47 Passenger Cars look just like 1946's, have rectangular parking lights mounted on the fenders above the grille. The grille bars have indented scallop lines which are painted red.
The hood front emblem, hood ornament and side mouldings are also different. See page 79 in the Standard Catalog, two early 1947 Sedan Delivery's are pictured. The 'front clip' is the same as the cars.
1946/early 1947 hubcaps have FORD block letters in red with three red hash marks above and below. These hubcaps were also used on 1946/47 Sedan Delivery's.
I once owned two early '47 Woodies, an early '47 Deluxe Club Coupe, an early '47 Sportsman and three '56 F100's.
1953/56 F100 hubcaps (BAAA1130A or B3C1130A) look similar to 6A's, but are not as deep. This is why the OP has a mis-matched hupcap. The FORD letters were painted red.
These hubcaps were not used on Passenger Cars.
Early '47 Passenger Cars look just like 1946's, have rectangular parking lights mounted on the fenders above the grille. The grille bars have indented scallop lines which are painted red.
The hood front emblem, hood ornament and side mouldings are also different. See page 79 in the Standard Catalog, two early 1947 Sedan Delivery's are pictured. The 'front clip' is the same as the cars.
1946/early 1947 hubcaps have FORD block letters in red with three red hash marks above and below. These hubcaps were also used on 1946/47 Sedan Delivery's.
I once owned two early '47 Woodies, an early '47 Deluxe Club Coupe, an early '47 Sportsman and three '56 F100's.
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That's Excellent info Bill!
So my guess about the difference between cars and the later trucks was pretty lucky!
And the shallow one is the F-100 hub cap - that's interesting! Was there a reason for that?
So my guess about the difference between cars and the later trucks was pretty lucky!
And the shallow one is the F-100 hub cap - that's interesting! Was there a reason for that?
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Bill,
Thank you!! Somehow I am not at all surprised that you have sorted out all this fun with the hubcaps. At least now I know what to look for, which is a lot better than guessing!!
You should write a book on all this kind of detail stuff that hardly anyone else knows. I'd buy one for sure!!
RG
Thank you!! Somehow I am not at all surprised that you have sorted out all this fun with the hubcaps. At least now I know what to look for, which is a lot better than guessing!!
You should write a book on all this kind of detail stuff that hardly anyone else knows. I'd buy one for sure!!
RG
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Robert, did you happen to see this...
1947 48 FORD NOS HUBCAP 47 48 49 50 51 52 54 55 TRUCK : eBay Motors (item 300421968635 end time May-09-10 13:30:00 PDT)
1947 48 FORD NOS HUBCAP 47 48 49 50 51 52 54 55 TRUCK : eBay Motors (item 300421968635 end time May-09-10 13:30:00 PDT)
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