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From: Lawrence Swamp
Jeesh, ask a question...
U guys R takin me to school (tuition free!). Thanks -
I'll down load n probably have more Qs related to it.
Like the T19 (duplicate of the T18 all the way cept synchro all gears?) was NOT in these beasts?
U guys R takin me to school (tuition free!). Thanks -
I'll down load n probably have more Qs related to it.
Like the T19 (duplicate of the T18 all the way cept synchro all gears?) was NOT in these beasts?
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From: Wahpeton ND
Some of your typing is just friggen illegible.
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From: Gadsden Purchase
T19's have lots of ratios to choose from...
http://www.novak-adapt.com/images/gr...ecs_gasket.gif
I think it'd be pretty cool to have a T19 with these ratios... :)
6.32 3.09 1.68 1.00 +r6.96
...just might someday. :)
I believe the 6.96 reverse would be an improvment over my T18 but
that'd be the only thing I'd change and only about that much too. :)
Hmmm...wonder where reverse is on a T19?
Anybody know?
Alvin in AZ
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OK i have not read all about your 300 build. couple of questions. What have you done to boost compression, and was motor line bored and balanced. what did you do in the way of a cam? The reason i am asking this is because i had a 82 f150 with the hotwater six in it that i had to rebuild the motor right after i got it. Cant remember how much we had to shave from the heads to get the warp out, but was a lot. i do remember that we decked the block .025 punched the cylinders .060 over. put a roller cam and lifters in it.didnt do anything to oversize the valves. stock tiny 2 barrel carb, and i think it was hooker split headers running to twin 8" glass packs. I was never able to get the 4 barrel intake for it so after 1st gear it was a DOG. but there wasnt a stock or even slightly built SBC BBC or V8 Ford that i could not beat in stop light to stop light. i could get 78 MPH in first gear @8900RPM . It would turn 9k all day long. well at least for 60 miles strait. I know i did it more than once. drove the truck for over 15 yrs like that. and it would STILL pull the hinges offof hell if i needed it to. YOU CAN GO FASTER!!! 
Last edited by krazirbar; May 10, 2010 at 02:10 AM. Reason: forgot .. tranny was 4speed manuel but not granny 1 more of a 3speed with OD cant remember the model sorry. sold trk 10yrs ag
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I have a C6 trans. Without a tach, punched, I guess it shifts at 2k. Regarding the DP intake: I thought it would improve mpg.
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OK i have not read all about your 300 build. couple of questions. What have you done to boost compression, and was motor line bored and balanced. what did you do in the way of a cam? The reason i am asking this is because i had a 82 f150 with the hotwater six in it that i had to rebuild the motor right after i got it. Cant remember how much we had to shave from the heads to get the warp out, but was a lot. i do remember that we decked the block .025 punched the cylinders .060 over. put a roller cam and lifters in it.didnt do anything to oversize the valves. stock tiny 2 barrel carb, and i think it was hooker split headers running to twin 8" glass packs. I was never able to get the 4 barrel intake for it so after 1st gear it was a DOG. but there wasnt a stock or even slightly built SBC BBC or V8 Ford that i could not beat in stop light to stop light. i could get 78 MPH in first gear @8900RPM . It would turn 9k all day long. well at least for 60 miles strait. I know i did it more than once. drove the truck for over 15 yrs like that. and it would STILL pull the hinges offof hell if i needed it to. YOU CAN GO FASTER!!!
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I'll try to answer questions from two previous posts: I bumped c.r. by shaving block .020" and the head .030". The engine was balanced, not line bored.
I have a C6 trans. Without a tach, punched, I guess it shifts at 2k. Regarding the DP intake: I thought it would improve mpg.
I have a C6 trans. Without a tach, punched, I guess it shifts at 2k. Regarding the DP intake: I thought it would improve mpg.
I saw your article and enjoyed it. As much as I like the FE Fords (I drove a 360 FE for years) they are notorious gas hogs. It seemed to do 10-11 mpg no matter how I drove it. Kinda makes me wonder how much better fuel economy you could get with a auto overdrive, but with tall tires it might be lugging the engine and hurting fuel economy more then helping it.
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From: FORT GIBSON
This is like my 2nd post so forgive me...but with cam, small increase in compression, and sbc valves(??? are they bigger than before? head ported?) so all that and more just wonderig if maybe 500cfm isnt too small? But the guy that said building these is like building a flathead is right, its just the "why be normal" thing most of us dig. And as for that camry I bet it couldn't pull a stump lol.
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I saw your article and enjoyed it. As much as I like the FE Fords (I drove a 360 FE for years) they are notorious gas hogs. It seemed to do 10-11 mpg no matter how I drove it. Kinda makes me wonder how much better fuel economy you could get with a auto overdrive, but with tall tires it might be lugging the engine and hurting fuel economy more then helping it.
I looked into a beefed up AOD trans. The owner of one of the large trans builders told me that even with the $2500 AOD, if I was hauling/towing in the mountains, I would fry the trans. So I went with the tricked out C6 and the Gear Vendor...which is working great on my garage floor, waiting to install itself in my truck.
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I am extremely disappointed in the I6 300. Power wise, with all the mods and $ I have in my engine, with 3.31 rear gears and an automatic C6, I can not beat a bone stock Toyota Camry up the onramp!!!
After researching this engine for four or five months, I can only find a few small advantages over a v8: Timing gears add life to the engine, and it produces peak torque at a lower rpm than a v8. That is it.
To get considerable power out of these engines it takes major work and money. And then you find that if you had done the some work (for half the price) on a v8, you'd have far greater performance.
Disgusted....
After researching this engine for four or five months, I can only find a few small advantages over a v8: Timing gears add life to the engine, and it produces peak torque at a lower rpm than a v8. That is it.
To get considerable power out of these engines it takes major work and money. And then you find that if you had done the some work (for half the price) on a v8, you'd have far greater performance.
Disgusted....
#1 - Yup...
#2 - What kind of toyota camry are we talking here? The new ones with the 3.5L V6 have 268 hp @ 6200 rpm and 248(!) lb-ft of torque @ 4700 rpm. They do 0-60 in 6.5 seconds. Even the four banger model got there in 8.9 seconds. What is that, a solid 3 seconds faster than a stock 300???
2009 Toyota Camry Review - Edmunds.com
#3 - Yes, timing gears may add life to the engine. But the chain is not that hard to replace and it is a chain, not a belt.
#4 - As for producing peak torque lower than "a V8", I think there are plenty of V8s out there that can give just as much, if not more torque at the same rpm level, without the anemic top end. Most of the V8s we're all thinking of actually have an aftermarket, and therefore have aftermarket H/C/I/E lightyears ahead of the 300s aftermarket options.
#5 - I think you set yourself up for this disappointment by thinking that youd unock a beast. What little aftermarket there is for the 300 will not cut your 0-60 times in half. They simply augment the stock nature of the engine - reliable, torquey enough to work hard, and cheap.
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