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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 04:44 PM
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I will be rebuilding my 75 F100 this summer and would like to get a little more power. I've read where you can use a 428 crank to get 410 cubic inches in a 390 block. Since the blocks are the virtually the same (360/390) can I use a 428 crank in a 360? Do I need to use the rods and pistons from the 360 or use the 428 rods/pistons? Are there any issues with the clearance on the bottom of the cylinders, etc. Any help appreciated. Thanks
 
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 06:26 PM
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......Neither. You need 410 pistons, and 390 rods.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by HillbillyDeluxe81
......Neither. You need 410 pistons, and 390 rods.
I thought the bore was the same, just crank and rods to get the 410cid ?
 
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bamaf150
I thought the bore was the same, just crank and rods to get the 410cid ?
You're exactly right. .....however you need a piston with a lower compression height. A 390 and 410 use the same rods. So...in order to keep the piston below deck, you must change the pin location.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by HillbillyDeluxe81
You're exactly right. .....however you need a piston with a lower compression height. A 390 and 410 use the same rods. So...in order to keep the piston below deck, you must change the pin location.

Ahhh, gotcha, thanks
 
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When I bought this truck the previous owner told me when he last rebuilt it he put in a 390 crank and pistons, thus making it a 390 (bore was the same), I'd like to take it up to 410 with the 428 crank if I can, just wondering if anyone has made this change and what I would need to do.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 06:55 PM
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Once again.....You need a 428 crank, 410 pistons, and 390 rods. Balance them as needed, then assemble. It's that simple.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 07:09 PM
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Thanks!!! That's what I needed to know.
 
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The 410 is a factory configuration......so no other modifications are required. There was also a 406, which is 428 bore with 390 crankshaft.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by HillbillyDeluxe81
The 410 is a factory configuration......so no other modifications are required. There was also a 406, which is 428 bore with 390 crankshaft.
It was a mercury engine, correct? so a 410 was an fe block then. I wonder what she performs like in a stock config
 
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 07:41 PM
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One more thing.....you'll probably need a 428 flywheel. But just worry about getting the crankshaft, pistons and rods. Then your engine builder can make sure you get everything balanced properly.
 
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Yeah, it was a Mercury engine. My dad still has really late 65 model year Mercury Monterey Marauder that came with the 410. I thought that was weird because i thought the 410 came out in 66. I guess it did, but a few late 65's have them too. Also, the Merc 410 is not to be confused with the Edsel 410....way different monkey there, if I remember correctly.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by HillbillyDeluxe81
One more thing.....you'll probably need a 428 flywheel. But just worry about getting the crankshaft, pistons and rods. Then your engine builder can make sure you get everything balanced properly.
You can use any flywheel if the entire assembly is getting balanced.

A side point... most 360 engines use 410 pistons.

So the recipe is: 410/428 crank, 390/428 rods, 360/410 pistons.

Josh
 
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Bullitt390
You can use any flywheel if the entire assembly is getting balanced.

A side point... most 360 engines use 410 pistons.

So the recipe is: 410/428 crank, 390/428 rods, 360/410 pistons.

Josh
That is neat ive never heard of a 410. A shame it works out that way, i would assume the 360 rods are longer. Longer rods make for better torque not sure what the difference will actually yeild tho.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 08:09 PM
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THANX - MUCH INFO here - will be "building" a 360 later - - was going to "build-up to a 390, but may change plans, to 410. Need to get thru this snow/rain weather 1st. Don't need a racing mill buit the added HP will be nice. "Overkill" for an old 250 SC. LOL
 
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