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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 08:51 PM
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Your fuel pressure is first regulated to 100 psig out of the HFCM, so your pump is really not increasing its pressure based on what is happening at the fuel filter regulator. The fuel pressure is first regulated at the HFCM and then further regulated by this spring loaded regulator at the fuel filter to the 45-65 psig we see with our gauges.
I've never heard of a 100psi regulator at the pump. Are you sure its not a backup regulator to prevent line blowouts? If the pump was running at 100psi all the time with this much flow it would be one helluva pump, it would blow the socks off FASS and Airdog. There would be no reason to have a 100 psi regulator at the pump (keeping the pump at 100 psi) as it would just decrease flow rates and shorten the pump lifespan.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by cartmanea
I've never heard of a 100psi regulator at the pump. Are you sure its not a backup regulator to prevent line blowouts? If the pump was running at 100psi all the time with this much flow it would be one helluva pump, it would blow the socks off FASS and Airdog. There would be no reason to have a 100 psi regulator at the pump (keeping the pump at 100 psi) as it would just decrease flow rates and shorten the pump lifespan.
It is from the PC/ED manual or OBDII manual IIRC. It has been a long time since I looked it up (early on in owning the 6.0L). I can look for it again OR if a Tech could confirm or correct the info, I do not mind one bit!! Unfortunately this is one bit of info that I did not document the reference, so I will admit to it possibly being in error.

If a pump can deliver 65+ psig at the filter, then the pump discharge pressure will be measureably higher. As I am sure you know, the pressure is to account for the frictional losses in the fuel lines. Doesn't a FASS install bigger fuel lines? Also, the FASS is capable of delivering higher volumes of fuel.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 11:32 PM
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Old Jan 17, 2010 | 11:08 AM
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Old Jan 17, 2010 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by cartmanea
I've never heard of a 100psi regulator at the pump. Are you sure its not a backup regulator to prevent line blowouts? If the pump was running at 100psi all the time with this much flow it would be one helluva pump, it would blow the socks off FASS and Airdog. There would be no reason to have a 100 psi regulator at the pump (keeping the pump at 100 psi) as it would just decrease flow rates and shorten the pump lifespan.
the stock fuel pump is capable of delivering 100psi. To maintain that pressure it would be delivering a very small amount of fuel.. Basically, if you dead headed the pump, you could see 100 psi.. FASS and Airdog can deliver fuel at higher pressure and increased volume..

the biggest restrictions in a stock 6.0 fuel system are the nipple from the pickup tube where it connects to the frame rail line hose(it's a tiny little hole in that piece), and the banjo bolts at the heads.. the pump can keep up with stock tuning..

guys running strong tunes will see drastic pressure losses during WOT runs with a stock system.. I could watch my pressure drop from 50 to 12.. Instead of unreliable aftermarket fuel pumps, I installed a second HFCM and increased the fuel line size from tank to motor.. Also, an ITP RR set at 60psi and I haven't lost an injector in a year and a half.. Last racing season was very hard on my injectors and they're still doin fine..
 
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Old Jan 17, 2010 | 02:29 PM
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Old Jan 17, 2010 | 02:51 PM
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Old Jan 17, 2010 | 06:07 PM
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will this mod help with sticky injectors or create a better spray pattern?
 
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Old Jan 17, 2010 | 06:35 PM
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How much pressure can the o rings hold at the injectors? Because when you are idling the pressure is higher than normal and run the risk of leaking fuel into the top of the heads?
 
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Old Jan 17, 2010 | 06:48 PM
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No, it will just help keep enough pressure feeding the injectors. Its recommended not to go over 70-75 psi at idle, I wouldn't go over 65 psi and mine idles at about 62.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2010 | 07:16 PM
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Did mine today while the motor is still out. Took 10 minutes. Thanks again to all the people that help keep these thing running great
 
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Old Jan 17, 2010 | 07:25 PM
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You shouldn't do it without knowing your idle fuel pressure before an after. I'd hate to see you blow out injector o-rings on the new engine...
 
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Old Jan 17, 2010 | 07:58 PM
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I guess I will spend ten minutes and take the bb out. Thanks for the heads up.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2010 | 09:45 PM
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is there any symptoms of a worn spring?.or is it a "when the injectors go out" type warning?.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2010 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by steelhead2
is there any symptoms of a worn spring?.or is it a "when the injectors go out" type warning?.
a fuel pressure gauge will tell you what you need to know.. you want to see a minimum of 45-50 at all times.. a fatigued spring will bleed off too much pressure from the top of the motor..
 
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