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Old Jan 15, 2010 | 04:30 PM
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I have a 1985 f150,302,dual fuel tanks,2w drive,fuel injected. My problem or question is can I eliminate the small tube inside the larger gas filler hose. I think the small tube is some sort of air vent when filling tank with gas.

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Old Jan 15, 2010 | 05:11 PM
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It is a vent ... Fuel goes in and air goes out ... Otherwise you would be all day filling ... Kinda like pouring from a gas can with the little vent closed ... real slow ... Open the vent and out she pours ... Some tanks can be vented with a seperate fitting installed on the top of the tank ... But to do that you need to empty and drop the tank, flush the fuel out (don't want vapors) and drill a hole ...

Are you thinking of eliminating the vent hose for some reason?
 
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Old Jan 15, 2010 | 05:12 PM
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It is the vent hose. It's relieves pressure inside the tank when filling. It'll be very difficult to add gas without it.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2010 | 07:50 PM
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I am replacing my 19 gallon long center tank. [you do not want know what happened to the old tank] I want if possibly to get rid of the vent hose. So what type of vent fitting do I need and where can I get one. I am also assuming the hole that needs to be drilled should be drilled at the highest point on the tank that does not interfere with the tank mounting.

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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 02:22 AM
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You could replace your tank with OEM ... Or you could look at places like Summit Racing and go for a fuel cell ... They come with vents and roll-over valves ... There are many other outfits but that is the one that comes to mind first ... You might even look into a fuel tank/tool box combo that fits cross-bed ... However I would check your local (state) laws as far as where and what you can use for a primary fuel source ...

I have been toying with the idea of a flatbed which would give me room for a pair of 22 gallon poly tanks by RCI ...
 
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 10:10 AM
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Eliminating this small vent tube is common practice with these trucks. It very often is pinched or bent, provides no vent action and only impedes flow of fuel to the tank.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 10:36 AM
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If the vent stays clipped inside the larger tube, it works fine on a gas truck. If it becomes unclipped, it falls down and the fuel splashes against it and makes the station pump cut off all the time.

If you try to make another vent in the tank, it opens up another whole can of worms. The only spot really to add a vent is the emissions fitting, and it runs up to the charcoal canister. So you would have to eliminate that system, and then wherever you vent you are going to get a gas smell.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 08:34 PM
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So what you are saying is I can leave my small vent tube out when I put my replacement tank on my truck right. By the way the tank I am putting on my truck came off a junkyard truck.

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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 07:12 PM
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mine doesnt have a vent tube, its a PITA to fill, you can barely squeeze the trigger at the pump otherwise it will turn the pump off/splash gas all over the bedside
 
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 09:34 PM
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So if your vent tube is gone gas is slow, and if the tube is bent it is slow. How do you know which it is do you have to take the bed off, or is there some easy way to access the vent tube. It takes forever to fill my tank, and the front tank doesn't even have a filler neck or something like that because the gas just runs out under the bed.
 
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There is no easy way, you have to pull it apart and look. On the plus side, the filler necks
come out without needing to drop the tank(s).
 
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 10:35 PM
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Once you've dropped a few tanks, it doesn't seem as hard as everyone makes it out to be. Granted, the newer the vehicle, the more lines and complexity you have. I've done it on my truck, my friend's Crown Vic (twice iirc), and his 70's Dodge "Good Times Machine" van. As long as you bring a floor jack, an impact, safety glasses, and some penetrating lube under there with you, it's a breeze. If I had to choose between dropping a tank, and, say, changing the plugs on a van, I would take the tank.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 08:26 AM
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And if your afraid of busting straps without replacements handy you can always round up a few friends and take the box off/set the box back
 
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 09:19 AM
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I'd leave that small tube in there.like one of the other guys said more than likely it'll be a huge pain to fill due to it not getting vented correctly.
 
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Originally Posted by dwrestle
So if your vent tube is gone gas is slow, and if the tube is bent it is slow. How do you know which it is do you have to take the bed off, or is there some easy way to access the vent tube. It takes forever to fill my tank, and the front tank doesn't even have a filler neck or something like that because the gas just runs out under the bed.
It's very easy. Just make sure the tank is not full. Loosen the large clamps that hold the hose to the tank, and the filler pipe to the support. Take the three screws out that mount the filler neck to the bed, and then pull it out. You will see the hard plastic line inside the large line, and you can see where it clips inside the large pipe.
 
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