Need input (supercharger project)
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Need input (supercharger project)
Thinking one night about building a new 2V V10 to handle some boost and my options. Bolt on kits are limited to Vortech or Paxton and I want instant boost so that's out. Kenne bell and whipple no longer make the V10 kits so that's out as well. Turbo would be great but it's been done before. This is where it gets good.
2V V10's are just 5.4L with two extra cylinders. So I was think of taking two factory lightning lowers, cutting them in two and joining them back together. This would allow me to "bolt on" any factory or after market ford lightning parts. These parts are plentiful and cheap. Here is the specs for Lightnings vs. V10's
Lightning:
HP: 380
TQ: 440
V10's
HP: 310
TQ: 425
Keep in mind the lightning only has the 5.4L in it. Ford would have been better off offering the supercharged 5.4L instead of the V10
Just imagine how much power and torque a Eaton M112 on a V10 will make. What do you guys think? Worth it or not? Don't worry about the fab work on the lower as I have access to a full machine shop. Fire way!
2V V10's are just 5.4L with two extra cylinders. So I was think of taking two factory lightning lowers, cutting them in two and joining them back together. This would allow me to "bolt on" any factory or after market ford lightning parts. These parts are plentiful and cheap. Here is the specs for Lightnings vs. V10's
Lightning:
HP: 380
TQ: 440
V10's
HP: 310
TQ: 425
Keep in mind the lightning only has the 5.4L in it. Ford would have been better off offering the supercharged 5.4L instead of the V10
Just imagine how much power and torque a Eaton M112 on a V10 will make. What do you guys think? Worth it or not? Don't worry about the fab work on the lower as I have access to a full machine shop. Fire way!
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I would think there is more diffrence between a lighting 5.4 and "standard" 5.4. Such as heads, cams,ignition, mass air, and injectors. Also remember the V10 was out in 1997 and the supercharged 5.4 later. I'm sure a supercharged and properly tuned V10 would be awsome!
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I seem to remember a post on here some time ago about this same thing. Do a search. I think it would be great to have a roots type blower for one of these things. Of course, I also think it would be awesome to have one with ANY blower in a FOX body Mustang. Is that weird?
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I picked up a lightning lower this weekend and sat it on the engine. Push the intake all the way forward/back and everything lines up! Searching for another lower to cut up and make one big one now. Will try and get some pictures for everyone.
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You HAVE to take PICS!
And, after asking for advice, don't come back and say you have a kit to sell
If you're building the V10 just for this, use the Lightning pistons, or some other forged choice, and maybe/definitely a good set of rods. Just keep in mind, the intricate balance of the V10, and try to keep the rods and pistons the same weight as stock - in other words, don't throw away the old pistons and rods
I've always wanted to do something like this, and using two Lightning lowers is a good idea. Using a big enough blower, and low compression pistons, that would be sweet!
And, after asking for advice, don't come back and say you have a kit to sell
If you're building the V10 just for this, use the Lightning pistons, or some other forged choice, and maybe/definitely a good set of rods. Just keep in mind, the intricate balance of the V10, and try to keep the rods and pistons the same weight as stock - in other words, don't throw away the old pistons and rods
I've always wanted to do something like this, and using two Lightning lowers is a good idea. Using a big enough blower, and low compression pistons, that would be sweet!
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You HAVE to take PICS!
And, after asking for advice, don't come back and say you have a kit to sell
If you're building the V10 just for this, use the Lightning pistons, or some other forged choice, and maybe/definitely a good set of rods. Just keep in mind, the intricate balance of the V10, and try to keep the rods and pistons the same weight as stock - in other words, don't throw away the old pistons and rods
I've always wanted to do something like this, and using two Lightning lowers is a good idea. Using a big enough blower, and low compression pistons, that would be sweet!
And, after asking for advice, don't come back and say you have a kit to sell
If you're building the V10 just for this, use the Lightning pistons, or some other forged choice, and maybe/definitely a good set of rods. Just keep in mind, the intricate balance of the V10, and try to keep the rods and pistons the same weight as stock - in other words, don't throw away the old pistons and rods
I've always wanted to do something like this, and using two Lightning lowers is a good idea. Using a big enough blower, and low compression pistons, that would be sweet!
The reason with going with the lightning stuff is the ability to bolt on a bigger blower. Whipple makes a 3.4L that will bolt right on the lower intake. I will be building a low compression forged 20 over V10. So it will be around a 7 liter V10 with 18 lbs of boost. Of course this side of the project is down the road aways.
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The engines internally are identical except for the pistons. The Lightning version has forged pistons,and the standard 5.4L has hyperutectic pistons. Heads, cams, crank, etc, etc, etc are all the same parts. Of course the top end is different, as is the MAF, and the fuel system components.
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Hypereutectic piston - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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