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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 12:23 AM
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I could weld, but honestly... just don't want to screw around at this point... I think my best plan here is to sell what I got (While I can get basically what I paid for it) and grab the H2E... Then when I want to go further (if I decide I do), I can have the H2E modded for 1200 and go for more...
Honestly, at this point, I will be happy to have a reliable 500HP, and over 1000Ft/lbs and call it done...
One day if I get bored (and pay off the mess I have created for myself now) I will have the option to go more if I choose... But keep in mind, I don't need to spin this clutch now...
 
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by fordzilla01
I could weld, but honestly... just don't want to screw around at this point... I think my best plan here is to sell what I got (While I can get basically what I paid for it) and grab the H2E... Then when I want to go further (if I decide I do), I can have the H2E modded for 1200 and go for more...
Honestly, at this point, I will be happy to have a reliable 500HP, and over 1000Ft/lbs and call it done...
One day if I get bored (and pay off the mess I have created for myself now) I will have the option to go more if I choose... But keep in mind, I don't need to spin this clutch now...
So 3200 and you can have a modded H2E? Is that right?

Well how much longer before your build is done? If your talking a month or two... A GT-42 is a reliable 500 along with whatever you want to reach down the road. You don't need to mod it or anything... Or if you are just looking for 500 then stick with what you got. Throw it on there... take your rodded motor and mock up yourself a kit. Take your time...
 
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 02:10 AM
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So 3200 and you can have a modded H2E? Is that right?

Well how much longer before your build is done? If your talking a month or two... A GT-42 is a reliable 500 along with whatever you want to reach down the road. You don't need to mod it or anything... Or if you are just looking for 500 then stick with what you got. Throw it on there... take your rodded motor and mock up yourself a kit. Take your time...
You can BUY outright a modded H2e for about 1600 depending on the housings and wheels...

You cant touch a 42R for that... Well maybe rub it a little...

I dont understand why you are so against the H2e? Did someone hit you on the head with one once? Or did the ride in mine pulling the tralier scare you?
 
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by CSIPSD
You can BUY outright a modded H2e for about 1600 depending on the housings and wheels...

You cant touch a 42R for that... Well maybe rub it a little...

I dont understand why you are so against the H2e? Did someone hit you on the head with one once? Or did the ride in mine pulling the tralier scare you?
Joe is right, a GT42R (R=Ball Bearing) are $2,200-ish but there are two variations.. The journal bearing and ball bearing.. Since the H2E is also journal bearing you could compare it to other simliar journal bearing turbo's like the S400's and GT42 (JB)

I have the journal bearing version of the GT42, and got it for $1050.00

If I would have had the extra $1200 sitting around, I would have went for the Ball Bearing but I am happy with the performance of the JB.

And I will also say the H2E is a great turbo and a great choice! Like Joe said, you will be happy and its upgradeable for modding and should support 550-ish HP in modded form!
 
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 08:24 AM
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So, for a guy (me) that doesn't want to go for big hp (350 to me would be plenty) it sounds like a 38r would be a better option. H2E, GT42, etc. are all for building higher HP trucks, yes? I'm looking for streetable power that won't need headstuds etc. Just trying to clarify for those of us not in the HP race. Thanks!!
 
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 08:51 AM
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I still say if your going to go for big hp, I am going for compound turbos. An s400 turbo is cheap and reliable from what i have found, and plentyof air. Keep the gt38r for good spool time, and then feed it with the s400-80 or whatnot and hold on for some fun. A large single lags too much to be useful in my opinion. Id like to have reliable power off the line without having to wait for the huge single to spool.
price for the s400 seems reasonable at 600-800 dollars.

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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by CSIPSD
You can BUY outright a modded H2e for about 1600 depending on the housings and wheels...

You cant touch a 42R for that... Well maybe rub it a little...

I dont understand why you are so against the H2e? Did someone hit you on the head with one once? Or did the ride in mine pulling the tralier scare you?

No, I have nothing against the H2E. I just think if I were to stick a turbo on a fully built motor, that wouldn't be my first choice. He will be happy with the turbo.

Gordon's set up is awesome. Then I hear nothing but good things from Greg too. Buy the turbo for 1k and then build a kit for 4-500 bucks... Then you don't have to do anything different if you want 450 horsepower or 600+... LOL
 
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by UNTAMND
I still say if your going to go for big hp, I am going for compound turbos. An s400 turbo is cheap and reliable from what i have found, and plentyof air. Keep the gt38r for good spool time, and then feed it with the s400-80 or whatnot and hold on for some fun. A large single lags too much to be useful in my opinion. Id like to have reliable power off the line without having to wait for the huge single to spool.
price for the s400 seems reasonable at 600-800 dollars.

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That would be sweet too... Or a procharger
 
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by papadelogan
So, for a guy (me) that doesn't want to go for big hp (350 to me would be plenty) it sounds like a 38r would be a better option. H2E, GT42, etc. are all for building higher HP trucks, yes? I'm looking for streetable power that won't need headstuds etc. Just trying to clarify for those of us not in the HP race. Thanks!!

I dont agree... The 38r is noisy, barks all the time, can surge and is expensive to rebuild.

H2e is quite, touch as hell, will not surge, will run cooler with lower boost numbers and higher HP then the 38r....
 
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by papadelogan
So, for a guy (me) that doesn't want to go for big hp (350 to me would be plenty) it sounds like a 38r would be a better option. H2E, GT42, etc. are all for building higher HP trucks, yes? I'm looking for streetable power that won't need headstuds etc. Just trying to clarify for those of us not in the HP race. Thanks!!

Yes a perfect fit. You can't find a better price than Clay either!! I think he can even include the 1.15 for the same price
 
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by CSIPSD
I dont agree... The 38r is noisy, barks all the time, can surge and is expensive to rebuild.

H2e is quite, touch as hell, will not surge, will run cooler with lower boost numbers and higher HP then the 38r....
quiet, tough as hell, and cooler are good - the high HP is something I'm actually trying to *avoid*... I will likely never be on a dyno or dragstrip with my truck. 350 - 375HP is about the max that I want out of her.

Would a bone-stock, non-modded H2E get me there? And what about the rebuild issue with the H2E?

Keep in mind... I'm going to be living, driving, and occasionally towing at elevation. House will be around 5500'. Towing could be up over 11,000' and driving can put me near 12,000'. I know Bend sits @ ~3600' but the air does get mighty thin up high.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 01:37 PM
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Its no secret that I don't like the 38r... I have one still on my wifes excursion with a 1.15 housing. If not for that housing that turbo would sit on the work bench.

When I say HP I mean higher hp at lower boost levels with less stress on the motor. The H2e will run lower back pressure then the 38r...
 
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 02:50 PM
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LOL another Turbo thread!
 
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 03:08 PM
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Joe, if it was a year ago you would be pushing the TN... LOL...
 
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Old Jan 7, 2010 | 03:38 PM
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Joe, if it was a year ago you would be pushing the TN... LOL...
LOL! so maybe it was the H2E that took his engine out!
 
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