3500 lbs? I carry that much in the bed!

I'm not going to badmouth the Hemi. A co-worker friend has an '03 2500HD Hemi powered Ram with just a few miles shy of 200k and it still runs like a new one. No smoke, noises or problems. Like the Cummins, I wouldn't mind the Hemi in my Superduty if all else could be Ford. But, the 5.4L does fine and if history is any indication, it should be running fine for at least the next 200k.

 

Hey, no offense, but I passed a z06 corvette going up hill with my 5.4L powered F250, that sure doesnt make it faster. All that tells me is that u were on it harder. Lets be realistic here. There is absolutely no way that a stock 2V 5.4 superduty will even come close to a stock hemi ram in power and speed. I love my truck, but lest be realistic here, your giving up 80 hp.

 

Hahaha, I raced one of them in my V10 van.

It was dark and I thought it was a hemi.

About the time he hit 80 and I was going 35 ( in a cloud of his tire smoke) I knew it was not a hemi.lol

 

Why?

 

i know early v10 truck engines had electrical troubles, my uncle boughta new 94 and his was always at the garage, but later ones say 96-up seem to be bullitt proof. i found one outof a 98 with the tranny and all the electronics that in the future i am going to buy and swap into my 88 dodge ram, i was told they are just 360's with two more cylinders soit should be a pretty close fit.

 

i agree, my cousin bought a new 04 f-150 fx4 with a 5.4 and i think 3:73 gears and it pulled like a bitch, it realy pulled good.. then in 06 he traded it in on a ram 2500 with a hemi and 32 gears and that thing didnt pull worth a ****.

rite after he bought his 04 ford he pulled a 69 mustang fastback for me that i bought off of ebay, even up hill's and over the mountan, it pulled like the trialer was not even there.. last year, after he got his dodge. he pulled a 69 mustang coupe parts car on the same trailer for me and you woulda thought we were trying to haul a sherman tank, it pulled so bad. they make the power, but it just aint low end power. you realy have to rev them out if you wanna put them to work, thats why they are always puffing smoke...

 

sounds like a cool swap.

Your sig says you have a DOHC 4.6 in your F150?

 

yep i have a 79 f-150 with a 4.6 cobra swap.. you can sheck it out in the engine swap forum on this site.. thanks

 

Cool, I will do that.

 

A guy at work has a V10 Dodge and loves it. I've only heard good about them, which isn't saying much since I only know two people with them, but that's 2 more people than I know with Ford V10's! Anyway, he claims it gets as good of mileage as my Ford, but I'm kinda leery about that one.

 

I have a 94 Dodge 2500 V10 2wd. It was originally an auto, but I swapped a NV4500 into it. It gets around 12mpg and is a great truck to drive. Mileage isn't great, but not bad for a 488ci engine. Its just an old farm truck. Its a shame chrysler dropped that engine. My dad has an '08 F-250 4x4 V10. He gets around 14mpg from it, and it performs as well as my '05 6.0 powerstroke when hooked to a trailer.

 

Because it's a DODGE. Ok, now that that's out of the way

The one thing I always heard about them was the odd-fire setup, like the old odd-fire Buick V6s. Doesn't make for a smooth power application.

And isn't it based on the Mopar 360 V8?

I wonder if Ford would have ever come up with their V10 if Dodge hadn't done it first and pointed out the problems ahead of time?

 

The engine's initial development traces back to the late 80s - and yes it was based off the 5.9/360. Chrysler was also looking for an engine for its Viper. They had Lamborghini recast the prototype V10 in aluminum and make various other tweaks to it.

The two main types of V10 in use are both 90* V, but with different crankshafts. The Viper V10 (and I believe the BMW V10 as well) use a 5 journal crank shaft. This allows for balanced running without a balance shaft, but it requires an odd firing order, but with 10 cylinders a little "dead space" between firings isn't really going to be noticed. The other main type uses a split 10 journal crankshaft - much like a modern V6. This allows for an even firing order, but requires the use of balance shafts to maintain balance.

I guess Dodge figured since the V10 was primarily going to be a sports car engine they would just leave it as odd firing without balance shafts as they are known to suck down extra power and sometimes explode at sustained high RPMs. When Dodge finally made the truck variant they probably just didn't bother with modifying the crank and everything else to make it even fire.

Ford on the other hand uses that split journal crank with a balance shaft. The only real advantage is the even firing which I suppose gives slightly smoother power delivery. No matter what configuration a V10 will always have that distinctive V10 sound and have a very slight second order vibration.

 

In 1996 I bought a 1 ton dually ex-cab 2wd with the v-10. When it ran, it ran really well, but after an eighth coil pack in 27k miles it went bye bye. Other things, like the visor clips breaking, wheel center caps flying off with small bumps and the rear fenders easily letting a shovel through, were it just being a Dodge.

 

Somebody on youtube,said [QUOTE] HP sells cars,TORQUE wins races..

Who said that,was it bill ?????