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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 02:59 PM
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What exactly does the IPR do?
And, how does it function? (Voltage from PCM?)
 
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by cowmilker08
What exactly does the IPR do?
And, how does it function? (Voltage from PCM?)
I am patiently waiting with you. I don't know but would like to
 
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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The Ipr is pretty much a valve that regulates the injector oil pressure in accordance with the demand for oil pressure based on what the pcm wants from it IE you give it more go pedal it will increase the pressure so the injectors will have the neccesary pressure to fire correctly and the engine will run right IIRC. I am not sure about the voltage Tho
 
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by cowmilker08
What exactly does the IPR do?
And, how does it function? (Voltage from PCM?)
The ICP sensor on the Left head reports to the PCM what it sees , the PCM regulates the IPR on time based on what you are asking for with the Go pedal (Mostly).. I have never measured the voltage , its either 12 V or 5V ref ...The PCM turns it on and off so fast you can't measure the on time (with anything I have ) ..

Madvan (Bill (Blue) should be able explain it better than I can....(I'm just a grass hopper)

Heres more on the subject....:
The IPR valve works hand in hand with the ICP sensor.... any change to IPR duty cycle is going to change injection control pressure.

Here's how it works.... the ICP sensor reports injection control pressure to the PCM. The PCM knows what it needs for ICP and adjusts the duty cycle of the IPR to achieve it (some scan tools can display ICP as well as ICP_DES) and then rechecks the ICP reading to see if it has what it wants.

We cannot physically change IPR% (the % being the duty cycle or <ON> time versus the <OFF> time of the current in the circuit). The PCM is constantly adjusting IPR to maintain what ICP is required for a given operating circumstance.

Now.... if we see IPR duty cycle higher than expected, we can assume (but this is not necessarily a safe assumption) that there MAY be a concern with our oil quality/condition/level... or there MAY be a high pressure oil system leak.... There MAY be a spilling injector... an HPOP internal concern... an IPR valve concern or even a combination of circumstances or events. There are too many variables to even begin any diagnosis based on an IPR reading that we "think" is high without some reason to do so.....


IPR percent is a PCM output - Increase IPR and we increase ICP (this is, basically, a "feedback" type system).
 
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Old Dec 17, 2009 | 04:45 PM
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PCM grounds (pulse modulates) one wire on the IPR coil. The other wire is at +12 volts.

I like pictures ... http://www.thedieselstop.com/faq/949...iagnostics.pdf
 
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 08:46 AM
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IPR is keyed power (12v)
Pcm sends a ground signal in HZ.
Its not PWM.

Bill
 
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MADVAN
IPR is keyed power (12v)
Pcm sends a ground signal in HZ.
Its not PWM.

Bill
Correct .. it is in (HZ), 400 and a constant.
The width of one of the the pulse(s) is changing.
But still at a 400 HZ cycle, that's pwm.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 10:12 PM
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Good reading but I can't get past Action's avatar. lol
 
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Old Dec 19, 2009 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Hussler
Correct .. it is in (HZ), 400 and a constant.
The width of one of the the pulse(s) is changing.
But still at a 400 HZ cycle, that's pwm.
Signal to the IPR is digital. Its duty cycled in % of on /off time
from 0% to 50%. This is a type of pm control. Controls pulse amount.
PWM would control lenght of time (pulse). This is expressed in ms.
Its pulse (hz) vs length of pulse (ms).

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Old Dec 21, 2009 | 05:44 PM
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What's PWM?
So basically the pulses are all the same length,
but the pcm adjusts how frequently it pulses.
 
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