TRANNY GREMLIN!!!!
Frmr Ford Trans Engr
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From: SE Florida
If ford wasn't being flaky with the mercon licensing it would be on the shelves at every auto store by every oil manufacturer .. this IMHO crosses the line that if a manufacturer makes you use their product or voids a warranty then the product needs to be supplied for free I have full confidence in the Valvoline ,, And I have read all the debates ,, I do use all ford oem engine , filters oil because off warranty but My tranny is covered by aftermarket warranties and is well taken care of by me 
It is illegal for a manufacturer to require you to use their products to maintain the warranty UNLESS they give you that product. Ford does not give you the fluids that are required, and they do NOT make you use their products to maintain the warranty. You MUST use fluids with the proper ratings, but you do not have to use Ford's brand of fluids.
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How is Ford being flaky with MERCON licensing? They discontinued MERCON and changed MERCON V to be compatible with older transmissions that used MERCON.
It is illegal for a manufacturer to require you to use their products to maintain the warranty UNLESS they give you that product. Ford does not give you the fluids that are required, and they do NOT make you use their products to maintain the warranty. You MUST use fluids with the proper ratings, but you do not have to use Ford's brand of fluids.
It is illegal for a manufacturer to require you to use their products to maintain the warranty UNLESS they give you that product. Ford does not give you the fluids that are required, and they do NOT make you use their products to maintain the warranty. You MUST use fluids with the proper ratings, but you do not have to use Ford's brand of fluids.
ps if you make a tranny that needs (SP) = shutter proof fluid you already screwed up in my book and stepped back to fix it with whacky fluid
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they won't approve others fluids and make the Mercon licensing an expensive joke ,, atleast that is what my extensive research has led me to understand ,, makes sense because of the lack of SP rated fluids
ps if you make a tranny that needs (SP) = shutter proof fluid you already screwed up in my book and stepped back to fix it with whacky fluid
ps if you make a tranny that needs (SP) = shutter proof fluid you already screwed up in my book and stepped back to fix it with whacky fluid
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From: AZ
that wasn't really a question was it ? I have a Guardian warranty and it is acknowledged that the lift is in place ,, so far they have been great ,, ford would have DENIED any power train warranty save for the motor
ps AAmco lol
Frmr Ford Trans Engr
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From: SE Florida
I thought nobody else made a MERCON SP because it won't make a profit. There is only one transmission in the world that uses it, so why would a company spend the money to develop a fluid and license it with such a small potential market?
So that's why we called it MERCON SP? I did not know that. The transmission was designed from the start to use that fluid. This trans had a shudder (not shutter, shutters cover windows) problem? Another thing I didn't know as part of the original development team. Did I see you at Ford when we were developing this trans?
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