TRANNY GREMLIN!!!!
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TRANNY GREMLIN!!!!
I am a new owner of a 2004 f350 dually that has a intermittant issue. I have had this truck for 2 weeks and in that time I had what felt like the tail gate dropping on take off! This has only happened like 2-3 times in 2 weeks. When I come to a complete stop and sit for a short while like at a light then let off the brake and accelerate it somtimes feels like the tranny shudders momentarily then engages. I took it to the dealer yesterday and had them do a service on it and they put in the new oil and 2 filters and said all looked ok. Now this surge is much more prevalent. I took it back and had the tech do a test drive and it only happened once. Any ideas and help would be much appreciated.
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You might try dropping the drive shaft and greasing the yoke splines on the slip joint. They have been known to cause a clunk on initial movement. Also, did the dealer use Mercon SP fluid? That is very important.
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this states clunk when putting in gear but it will also happen at a stop
https://www.ford-trucks.com/lc/lc.ph...Fslipjoint.htm
https://www.ford-trucks.com/lc/lc.ph...Fslipjoint.htm
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Agreed unless they pulled the pan to look for shavings and did it just because they were there. Hope they did it for free since you just bought the truck?
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It does not clunk when you put in gear only sometimes on acceleration from dead stop. Tranny shifts perfectly everywhere else and does not slip. I tried to simulate problem in 3rd and tow/haul mode with no success yet. I will check the drive shaft. Thanks
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That is what I was referring to.
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it was just approved and most shelf bottles don't reflect it however I called Valvoline and they assured me it is a go! plus the website does say OK that and they flat out stated Ford dealers have been using this in bulk because it will service so many cars in their used car line
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Recommended for use where DEXRON, DEXRON II, III and VI, Toyota T-IV and WS, MERCON®, MERCON® SP and LV, Allison TES 295 and 389, Nissan Matic-D, Matic-J and Matic-K, Honda Z-1 (except CVT), Mercedes NAG-1, Mitsubishi Diamond SP-II and SP-III and many others are required.
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Valvoline.com > Products > MaxLife > Automatic Transmission Fluid MaxLife > MaxLife® DEX/MERC ATF
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Recommended for use where DEXRON, DEXRON II, III and VI, Toyota T-IV and WS, MERCON®, MERCON® SP and LV, Allison TES 295 and 389, Nissan Matic-D, Matic-J and Matic-K, Honda Z-1 (except CVT), Mercedes NAG-1, Mitsubishi Diamond SP-II and SP-III and many others are required.
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MC has a new fluid backward compatible called "LT, LF or LV" I think. I would not go the Valvoline route myself till you see something from Ford accepting it. These trannies are just to expensive to play russian roulette with.
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I was told they stopped making motorcraft sp but dealers have some and rip you off for it $$$ I have heard of more than 1 dealer not flushing with MC SP fluid
I have had it in for about 3k I was fine using it after all my phone calls ETC
I have had it in for about 3k I was fine using it after all my phone calls ETC
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Your truck, your choice!
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If ford wasn't being flaky with the mercon licensing it would be on the shelves at every auto store by every oil manufacturer .. this IMHO crosses the line that if a manufacturer makes you use their product or voids a warranty then the product needs to be supplied for free I have full confidence in the Valvoline ,, And I have read all the debates ,, I do use all ford oem engine , filters oil because off warranty but My tranny is covered by aftermarket warranties and is well taken care of by me 
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MaxLife ATF is a full synthetic automatic transmission fluid designed to meet the needs of the broadest range of
transmission designs. MaxLife ATF recommendations are based on a combination of formal OEM approvals,
field testing and laboratory testing.
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To Whom It May Concern:
MaxLife ATF is a full synthetic automatic transmission fluid designed to meet the needs of the broadest range of
transmission designs. MaxLife ATF recommendations are based on a combination of formal OEM approvals,
field testing and laboratory testing.
Valvoline MaxLife ATF carries the following formal OEM approvals:
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Voith H55.6335.33 (G607)
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Allison C-4
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Volvo STD 1273.41 (Pending)
Use of MaxLife ATF in transmissions calling for the above specifications is fully supported by the by both
Valvoline and the respective transmission/vehicle manufacturer.
Valvoline recommends MaxLife ATF in a broad range of transmissions beyond those for which we have formal OEM approval. The list below is just a sample of applications where Valvoline supports the use of MaxLife ATF. Valvoline has conducted in-house testing, independent lab testing and field-testing to support MaxLife ATF performance in these transmissions; however, it is important to note that the respective vehicle manufacturers have neither evaluated nor approved MaxLife ATF in these applications.
Valvoline and the respective transmission/vehicle manufacturer.
Valvoline recommends MaxLife ATF in a broad range of transmissions beyond those for which we have formal OEM approval. The list below is just a sample of applications where Valvoline supports the use of MaxLife ATF. Valvoline has conducted in-house testing, independent lab testing and field-testing to support MaxLife ATF performance in these transmissions; however, it is important to note that the respective vehicle manufacturers have neither evaluated nor approved MaxLife ATF in these applications.
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Allison TES 389
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Allison TES 295 (extended drain with appropriate used oil sampling)
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Audi G-052-025-A2, G-052-162-A1
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BMW LT71141 or LA2634 fluids
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Ford MERCON®
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Ford MERCON® V
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Ford MERCON® SP
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MERCON® LV
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GM 9986195
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GM DEXRON® II, III and VI
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Honda/Acura ATF-Z1 (except in CVTs)
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Hyundai
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JWS 3309
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KIA SP-II and SP-III Fluids
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KIA Red 1
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MAN 399 Type F
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Mazda M-V
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Mercedes Benz Sheet 236.x (except 236.12 and 236.20)
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Mercedes Benz NAG-1
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MOPAR AS68RC ATF
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Mitsubishi Diamond SP-II or SP-III
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Nissan Matic-D, Matic-J, Matic-K, and Matic-S
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Subaru ATF
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Subaru ATF-HP
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Toyota / Lexus Type T, T-III or T-IV
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Toyota WS
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Voith H55.6336.33 (G1363)
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Volvo 1161521 and 1161540
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VW TL52162
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ZF TE-ML-14B, 16L and 17C
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ATF 3403 M115
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effect, you must use genuine Plenum Brand Filter Bags. Failure to have scheduled maintenance performed, at your expense, by the Great American Maintenance Company, Inc., voids this warranty.\
Valvoline stands behind all of its products, including MaxLife ATF. Use of MaxLife ATF in transmissions where recommended by Valvoline WILL NOT void the vehicle’s warranty. Vehicle manufacturers are restricted by federal law from including the requirement of the use of a specific brand or trade name of product or service as a condition of their warranty. The following is an extract from the Federal Trade Commission’s web site on interpretation of the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act: "Tie-In Sales" Provisions Generally, tie-in sales provisions are not allowed. Such a provision would require a purchaser of the warranted product to buy an item or service from a particular company to use with the warranted product in order to be eligible to receive a remedy under the warranty. The following are examples of prohibited tie-in sales provisions. In order to keep your new Plenum Brand Vacuum Cleaner warranty in
effect, you must use genuine Plenum Brand Filter Bags. Failure to have scheduled maintenance performed, at your expense, by the Great American Maintenance Company, Inc., voids this warranty.\
Valvoline has conducted extensive testing and has a long history of successful use of MaxLife ATF in a broad range of applications.
In the unlikely event that you or your customer experiences any transmission damage while using MaxLife ATF in a Valvoline recommended application, please contact Valvoline at 1-800-Team-VAL for assistance.
While MaxLife ATF is designed to meet the special needs of higher mileage transmissions, new transmissions can also benefit from its enhanced oxidation protection, shear stability, seal compatibility, wear protection and antishudder protection. Many consumers have chosen to take advantage of this level of performance in newer transmissions.
Valvoline currently does not recommend MaxLife ATF where certain specific low viscosity ATFs are called for.These include Mercedes Benz NAG-2, ZF Lifeguard 6 and 6 Plus, and AUDI G055-162-A6 and G055-005-A2 applications. Valvoline does not recommend MaxLife ATF for use in most continuously variable transmissions (CVTs) unless specifically noted nor in automatic transmissions where Ford Type F fluids are recommended.
Sincerely,
While MaxLife ATF is designed to meet the special needs of higher mileage transmissions, new transmissions can also benefit from its enhanced oxidation protection, shear stability, seal compatibility, wear protection and antishudder protection. Many consumers have chosen to take advantage of this level of performance in newer transmissions.
Valvoline currently does not recommend MaxLife ATF where certain specific low viscosity ATFs are called for.These include Mercedes Benz NAG-2, ZF Lifeguard 6 and 6 Plus, and AUDI G055-162-A6 and G055-005-A2 applications. Valvoline does not recommend MaxLife ATF for use in most continuously variable transmissions (CVTs) unless specifically noted nor in automatic transmissions where Ford Type F fluids are recommended.
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