Warning Labels are there for a reason
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From: Glastenbury, VT
Warning Labels are there for a reason
Brake Cleaner = Phosgene Article
a print out of this article is hanging in a friends body shop and still they had an accident where one of the men poured bleach into a toilet to clean hard water stains , all fine except that one of the other guys had just dumped a coffee cup full of ammonia into that toilet.
almost poison gassed the clean up guy.
as the article above said, we get so used to the labels that we dont even read them anymore and we can be dead or crippled in a moment.
read the labels and follow the cautions fellas.
a print out of this article is hanging in a friends body shop and still they had an accident where one of the men poured bleach into a toilet to clean hard water stains , all fine except that one of the other guys had just dumped a coffee cup full of ammonia into that toilet.
almost poison gassed the clean up guy.
as the article above said, we get so used to the labels that we dont even read them anymore and we can be dead or crippled in a moment.
read the labels and follow the cautions fellas.
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From: Bonita Springs FL
Kind of makes you wonder if we aren't diluted by all the warnings we read and see. I mean, do we really need a warning on a kids' superman costume telling kids that this costume does not enable you to fly? There are real dangers that justify warning labels and there are warnings that are there for that one retard in 5 billion who will jump out of a window wearing a superman costume and someone is just trying to avoid a lawsuit.
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From: The Big, Oregon
Well, there are two problems, really- First is the litigious society we live in, and second that there is this pointless touchy-feely movement where you have to be so nice and caring to everybody, especially the dumb ones who can't figure life out for themselves. I like to think of warning labels (the dumb ones that say a cup of coffee is hot) as just an ***-covering move. Without them, you might have a bit of population control.
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I remember many, many years ago (mid/late 80's), when I worked in potato processing plant, a forklift operator had put 2 55-gallon drums of chemicals on a pallet and was transporting it to another area of the plant.
After he set the pallet down, he started taking off to go do something else and, as I understood it, he bumped one of the drums with a fork on the lift. Both drums tipped over and spilled.
One drum had a chlorine bleach in it and I'm not sure what the other drum had in it but they both, clearly, should never have been placed side-by-side...
The thick, green gas that emanated from that spill caused a closure of half the plant as they had to get everyone out and seal the area off so they could vent out the cloud. I think it took a few days before anyone was allowed to safely be in that area again...
After he set the pallet down, he started taking off to go do something else and, as I understood it, he bumped one of the drums with a fork on the lift. Both drums tipped over and spilled.
One drum had a chlorine bleach in it and I'm not sure what the other drum had in it but they both, clearly, should never have been placed side-by-side...
The thick, green gas that emanated from that spill caused a closure of half the plant as they had to get everyone out and seal the area off so they could vent out the cloud. I think it took a few days before anyone was allowed to safely be in that area again...
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From: Frequently frozen MN
I agree that there are so many that it's hard to notice the important ones.
I ordered some CO2 cartridges once, they were for cleaning out this mosquito magnet gadget. These were the small ones that hold maybe an ounce or two. They came complete with a Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) and warnings about something or other.
A lot of them are due to lawsuits and regulations. A warning label won't stop a lawsuit, but not having one is like handing over the company checkbook. (The hot coffee warning probably appeared after the McDonald's lawsuit).
One other odd thing is that obviously dangerous things don't require labels!That's why you don't see notices on chainsaws, knives, etc.
But, as shown by the examples, there are some things that REALLY need to be emphasized. Pretty hard to do when there are so many useless ones warnings dulling our perception.
I ordered some CO2 cartridges once, they were for cleaning out this mosquito magnet gadget. These were the small ones that hold maybe an ounce or two. They came complete with a Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) and warnings about something or other.
A lot of them are due to lawsuits and regulations. A warning label won't stop a lawsuit, but not having one is like handing over the company checkbook. (The hot coffee warning probably appeared after the McDonald's lawsuit).
One other odd thing is that obviously dangerous things don't require labels!That's why you don't see notices on chainsaws, knives, etc.
But, as shown by the examples, there are some things that REALLY need to be emphasized. Pretty hard to do when there are so many useless ones warnings dulling our perception.
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From: Marlboro Mental Hospital.
One other odd thing is that obviously dangerous things don't require labels!That's why you don't see notices on chainsaws, knives, etc.
But, as shown by the examples, there are some things that REALLY need to be emphasized. Pretty hard to do when there are so many useless ones warnings dulling our perception.
But, as shown by the examples, there are some things that REALLY need to be emphasized. Pretty hard to do when there are so many useless ones warnings dulling our perception.
"WARNING:: BO NOT GRAB BAR WHEN ENGINE IS RUNNING. SERIOUS INJURY MAY OCCUR"
is anyone really that stupid to grab a chainsaw by the bar with the chain moving??
apparently so, otherwise they would not have had to put that warning label on it.
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Tom
on a job site I actually did see a guy grab the bar.Lucky it was winding down but the expression on that guys face was one of shock. He will pay attention next time for sure
on a job site I actually did see a guy grab the bar.Lucky it was winding down but the expression on that guys face was one of shock. He will pay attention next time for sure
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I don't think that's quite right.
Ammonia and Chlorie Bleach mixed make Chlorine Gas.
And THAT is VERY harmful!!!!!!!!!
When I was young and dumb and full of . . . . uh, yeah. . . . I worked at a McDonald's.
On Friday nights (after closing) we used to scrub the tiled floor with a mix of 1 gallon of Chlorine Bleach. . . . 5 gallons of water. . . 1 gallon of Ammonia, 3 cups of Borax Soap Powder.
Let's look at this.
I WAS STOOPID!!!!!!!! I listened to another guy that worked there, and we mopped the entire store with that concoction, then rinsed with a 1-1/2" hose (firehose).
Did we have the doors open???
Duh. . . NO.
Idiots. We were IDIOTS. Heck, we just didn't know any better!
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