I don't think that anyone was saying they are wrong. But this is a forum for people to learn things and just saying that something is wrong and then saying what was said teaches nobody anything. Especially since Travis took the time to actually search it and came up with no evidence to support the deeper pans not cooling.

 

Well having looked at this issue since 1973 I guess their wrong? Get real! Anybody who may be foolish enough to argue these facts needs to do their own research to prove their point. Not these fine individuals here.

 

c00ns tranny mod is a shift kit

 

Well, as far as I know these deeper aluminum pans haven't been around since 73 I would have to say that they haven't been doing it since then. And since when did this forum become the kind that when something comes up that's been asked a bunch of times the OP is told to search it. That's not how things have been done here in the almost two years I've been here, especially to a newer member who may not know how to use the search feature. Nobody was saying that mark was wrong. I don't think that I have read anything from him say that the pans don't help, and by all means correct me if I'm wrong. And i just took a look at mag's site and they clearly say in the first paragraph that there pans and diff covers add lubricant and cooling capacity. So with that said untill I see this proof that's been typed to many times to be re-typed I'm going to have to go with what the MANUFACTURER says on there approved company website.

 

And here is a link to a thread that he actually takes the time to explain it, in the superduty forum. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...queestion.html and it only says that they don't add cooling ability because the oil is stagnent against the pan wall and because the air passing by is the same temperature and the air comming off the motor. Well first off the oil is continuously circulating from the pump, correct? so that would mean that it is always moving in the pan and oil molecules in theory don't stick to eachother, correct? so even if the film on the outer walls doesn't move it would still be being cooled by the air flowing past the pan and inturn cooling the oil that is moving past the stagnent film, correct? And secondly I disagree with what was said about the air passing by being the same temperature, if not hotter. Any air that is mixed with the cooler outside air is goingto immidiatly cool down so it will be cooler, thus why some tranny's have frame mounted coolers and still don't overheat.

 

yeah, otherwise how does my fuel cooler do any cooling at all? i mean its less than 2 feet from the tranny on my truck.

Look guys i never meant to imply that they were wrong about the pans. hell MADVAN has probably swapped pans himself and found no difference plain and simple, but i still want to know how it makes no difference. if you ask me what it takes to swap to SD seats in an OBS do i tell you run a search?! ummmm.. NO I DON'T!! thats not what we do here.. if Foxracing here asks me tomorrow how to do an injector swap in detail, being as i know whats involved, how to do it, what to watch out for.. i WILL give him the whole step by step on it and whoever else may need that info. i'm here to help just like everyone else and that doesn't include telling you to RUN A SEARCH. Now, i'm off my soap box......

tbart16, i am very sorry about this little mess here. i feel that i'm a partial cause to the derailment of this thread. i reviewed racerx's website and he seems to have A LOT of good parts for the E4OD trannys. what kind of things are you planning to do with the truck power wise??? that will tell how much you need to do with your tranny to make it hold up and whether you need to get into changing clutches, pump, etc.

Again sorry for the bickering. i'm going to go look for the results of deeper tranny pans now.. AGAIN.. LoL

 

thanks for the entertainment guys I have actually learned a lot thanks again

 

Here is an example. Seems if you take the same question out of
context you may have a different outlook on it.

Lets use your coolant degas/expansion tank.
Lets say its 2 quarts. We increase it 100% to 4 quarts.
What effect will it have on the running temp of the motor?
You increased fluid capacity not cooling capacity. If you
increased fluid capacity of the radiator is a completely different story.

Sometimes a sales pitch is just what it is.
My .02
Bill