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Lead Driver
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From: Eccles, WV
Bruce,
I am not sure, you have me confused. The design caused the failure of the towers due to heat, that has been proven. **** poor design.
I see no reason for the failure of 7, but I have not really studied it. It may have been induced as a controlled demolition. I just do not know.
I am not sure, you have me confused. The design caused the failure of the towers due to heat, that has been proven. **** poor design.
I see no reason for the failure of 7, but I have not really studied it. It may have been induced as a controlled demolition. I just do not know.
Fleet Owner
Joined: Sep 2005
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From: Lake Tahoe, Nevada
Claiming close to 3,000 people were murdered by our gov't and turning their deaths into some complex political conspiracy seems a bit disrespectful to me.
Maybe my moral compass is off
In my mind, if you can honestly say our gov't brought down those towers, your delusional. The bridge comment was a little harsh, I agree. Although I never told him to jump OFF, just to jump
My main problem with the post was it had no business belonging in this thread, especially on that specific day.
He was fishing for someone to respond negatively, and I got it hook, line, and sinker.
Maybe my moral compass is off
In my mind, if you can honestly say our gov't brought down those towers, your delusional. The bridge comment was a little harsh, I agree. Although I never told him to jump OFF, just to jump
My main problem with the post was it had no business belonging in this thread, especially on that specific day.
He was fishing for someone to respond negatively, and I got it hook, line, and sinker.
Also I would like to point out that there is nothing in what I said that is in any way disrespectful of the dead. So your first paragraph above IS wrong. Not caring enough to find out the truth of what happened is disrespectful. Remember, it was YOU who brought the government into it not me. I do accuse the government of incompetence because the "911 Report" was inaccurate and poorly done.
As to your "main problem" with my post, you don't get to determine what other people post. You don't "OWN" a thread. You are welcome to put your thoughts out there, anyone else is equally free to respond in any way they choose. So if you think you get to determine what comments "belong," you are totally out of luck.
And no, I was not fishing for someone to respond negatively, I was hoping to remind others that the case is not closed on this subject.
Post Fiend
Joined: Nov 2008
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From: McKenzie River
It sure looked like a controlled implosion, BUT..... Its been simulated many times, the floors damaged by the impact/explosion could no longer bear the weight of the floors above.....Result: pancaking/cascading collapse of everything below. The "evidence" of terrorist passport found on the ground was just some of the things found blocks away blown clear by the explosion of 12,000 gal. of JP-5. Conspiracy theories will never end, but in this case, I believe things are just as they appear, 9-11 was the most heinous act of terrorism ever committed on the US and hopefully, the last.
FTE Leadership Emeritus
Joined: Aug 2007
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From: Lakewood, Ca.
Red beans? Gee Paul, you should have at least given him some rice to go with them....
I don't think your compass is off at all - after all, it's your compass....only you can calibrate it as you see fit.
Regardless of the reason it happened the loss of life is no more or less tragic, and those who perpetrated the crime deserve to be brought to justice just the same. To do otherwise would truly disrespect those who died. I don't see where the suggestion that it may have been an 'inside job' is disrespectful to the dead, but that's just the way my compass is set.
Couldn't agree with you more on that, Bill 
Regardless of the reason it happened the loss of life is no more or less tragic, and those who perpetrated the crime deserve to be brought to justice just the same. To do otherwise would truly disrespect those who died. I don't see where the suggestion that it may have been an 'inside job' is disrespectful to the dead, but that's just the way my compass is set.
pedant
Joined: Jan 2008
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From: EXTREME southwest CT
(Not to dismiss the original intent of this thread)
Yamasaki did not have a "**** poor design"
I watched them go up....I watched them come down.
The tube frame design survived a huge bomb blast in '93 that took out a hundred foot hole through 4 sub levels of reinforced concrete parking garage.
Few will ever know the truth about what happened that day.
I honor those whose lives were lost.
Yamasaki did not have a "**** poor design"
I watched them go up....I watched them come down.
The tube frame design survived a huge bomb blast in '93 that took out a hundred foot hole through 4 sub levels of reinforced concrete parking garage.
Few will ever know the truth about what happened that day.
I honor those whose lives were lost.
Fleet Owner
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From: Lake Tahoe, Nevada
With this, I agree. And it appears that the buildings were brought down by controlled demolition.
Senior User
Joined: Aug 2005
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From: Around
You are doing the same thing that Paul did. I make the claim that the buildings came down as a result of a controlled demolition... Then YOU say that I claim the government did it. If you want to argue, fine, but try thinking before you type.
Also I would like to point out that there is nothing in what I said that is in any way disrespectful of the dead. So your first paragraph above IS wrong. Not caring enough to find out the truth of what happened is disrespectful. Remember, it was YOU who brought the government into it not me. I do accuse the government of incompetence because the "911 Report" was inaccurate and poorly done.
As to your "main problem" with my post, you don't get to determine what other people post. You don't "OWN" a thread. You are welcome to put your thoughts out there, anyone else is equally free to respond in any way they choose. So if you think you get to determine what comments "belong," you are totally out of luck.
And no, I was not fishing for someone to respond negatively, I was hoping to remind others that the case is not closed on this subject.
Also I would like to point out that there is nothing in what I said that is in any way disrespectful of the dead. So your first paragraph above IS wrong. Not caring enough to find out the truth of what happened is disrespectful. Remember, it was YOU who brought the government into it not me. I do accuse the government of incompetence because the "911 Report" was inaccurate and poorly done.
As to your "main problem" with my post, you don't get to determine what other people post. You don't "OWN" a thread. You are welcome to put your thoughts out there, anyone else is equally free to respond in any way they choose. So if you think you get to determine what comments "belong," you are totally out of luck.
And no, I was not fishing for someone to respond negatively, I was hoping to remind others that the case is not closed on this subject.
Post Fiend
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From: Charlotte, NC
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From: Lake Tahoe, Nevada
God doesn't speak English, she only speaks Swahili and she has an extreme liberal bias.
Lead Driver
Joined: Jul 2005
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From: Eccles, WV
Opps, forgot, the weather is controlled by Gore and his Made Up Global Warming.
By the way Jim, it was a poor design for a fuel fed fire, the steel could not handle the heat, twisted, collapsed and then the concrete pads pancaked causing the failure.
pedant
Joined: Jan 2008
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From: EXTREME southwest CT
BTW, I'm w/ Bruce on this one...
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I believe it was a false flag terror attack/inside job too. We need to find out what really happened that day. The sooner the better. Charlie Sheen wants to meet with the president about a possible investigation.