CCV reroute predicament
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CCV reroute predicament
Hi all,
I did a CCV reroute 4 months ago with a cannister I purchased from a company backeast. The cannister is a simple design which consists of 3" PVC, with internal mesh of some type, with an "in" and "out" that mounts on the frame rail below my driver door. I followed the install instructions to a "tee", including the high loop in the hose that runs from the valve cover up by the brake booster to limit the oil that diverts to the cannister......... (I noticed BISMIC had a similiar CCV reroute in his gallery).
I had the elbow boot blow off a few weeks back, which surprised me (since I R&R'd the elbow and turbo boot new). I noticed there was still fresh oil in the boot (enough to collect). I brake kleened, hairsprayed and reinstalled with no further mishaps. I cleaned both tubes but one thing I did not do is remove the IC radiator assembly and clean it out from the 5 prior years of CCV oil that must have collected inside of it, which I thought eventually would work its way out.
I regularly drain the small brass petcock and do get some oil, but nothing out of the ordinary.
My concern is that I still have oil in the system and am wondering if the cannister is doing its job.
Any ideas or suggestions? Did I do something wrong or miss something?
Thanks for your time
Joe
I did a CCV reroute 4 months ago with a cannister I purchased from a company backeast. The cannister is a simple design which consists of 3" PVC, with internal mesh of some type, with an "in" and "out" that mounts on the frame rail below my driver door. I followed the install instructions to a "tee", including the high loop in the hose that runs from the valve cover up by the brake booster to limit the oil that diverts to the cannister......... (I noticed BISMIC had a similiar CCV reroute in his gallery).
I had the elbow boot blow off a few weeks back, which surprised me (since I R&R'd the elbow and turbo boot new). I noticed there was still fresh oil in the boot (enough to collect). I brake kleened, hairsprayed and reinstalled with no further mishaps. I cleaned both tubes but one thing I did not do is remove the IC radiator assembly and clean it out from the 5 prior years of CCV oil that must have collected inside of it, which I thought eventually would work its way out.
I regularly drain the small brass petcock and do get some oil, but nothing out of the ordinary.
My concern is that I still have oil in the system and am wondering if the cannister is doing its job.
Any ideas or suggestions? Did I do something wrong or miss something?
Thanks for your time
Joe
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Man Joe i think there is just a lot of oil in the system even after you did the ccv reroute. Did you clean the innercooler out? I just routed my ccv into atmosphere and i still see a little oil in my boots and tubes when i take em off.
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Joe -
I still saw some oil in the intake tube after the ccv re-route but it was so little that it wasn't really worth mentioning or worrying about. I have since changed to a Racor filter and have not re-evaluated whether or not I am getting any in the intake with it.
When I changed to the Racor, I cut my original filter open after I removed it. The internal material was simply a plastic scrub pad - like you would buy for your kitchen sink. It was packed in the housing reasonably well, but not real high tech. The real issue I noted was tat the glued PVC fittings were loose - almost coming apart. This was after two years of service. I wanted a more permanent filter, so I went with an EXPENSIVE Racor.
You can plug the opening in the intake and just vent the filter to the air at the frame rail if you want to see if any oil is getting past the filter.
I still saw some oil in the intake tube after the ccv re-route but it was so little that it wasn't really worth mentioning or worrying about. I have since changed to a Racor filter and have not re-evaluated whether or not I am getting any in the intake with it.
When I changed to the Racor, I cut my original filter open after I removed it. The internal material was simply a plastic scrub pad - like you would buy for your kitchen sink. It was packed in the housing reasonably well, but not real high tech. The real issue I noted was tat the glued PVC fittings were loose - almost coming apart. This was after two years of service. I wanted a more permanent filter, so I went with an EXPENSIVE Racor.
You can plug the opening in the intake and just vent the filter to the air at the frame rail if you want to see if any oil is getting past the filter.
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Hi Shawn,
No I did not remove my IC radiator and clean it out. I removed both rigid tubes, boots and all other components for cleaning.
I did my EGR cooler delete at the same time and thought I'd be good. I think over time it might work its way out...I hope.
No I did not remove my IC radiator and clean it out. I removed both rigid tubes, boots and all other components for cleaning.
I did my EGR cooler delete at the same time and thought I'd be good. I think over time it might work its way out...I hope.
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Bismic,
Don't get me wrong, its not MAJOR oil but I thought it would be non existent after the CCV reroute.
I think I will try running the truck with the drain petcock open for a bit...what do you think about that?
Don't get me wrong, its not MAJOR oil but I thought it would be non existent after the CCV reroute.
I think I will try running the truck with the drain petcock open for a bit...what do you think about that?
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Yeah that's what i'm thinking. I thought about taking the IC out and cleaning but after the egr delete and the itp rr i thought screw that crap i'm done cutting my fingers and arms up on this thing. For a while anyway.
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It shouldn't be a problem - except for the staining where it drips (I think it will drip some wherever you park it). If you just open the pet **** drain valve, you could still carry over some oil in the vapor line. The plastic scrub media will NOT coalesce all the oil like a Racor element. It should get 90+% of it though.
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HAHA I know what you mean. I was tired of being tired after kneeling in the raised engine compartment (37's) for hours. I think I am just expecting way too much out of this primitive filter I installed. Either way you look at it, I am 100% better off than I was in stock form. 
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I installed the Racor ccv6000. As it turns out, I think I only needed the Racor ccv4500. Racor rates them on the engine horsepower and blow-by rates on a highly worn engine. Let me check my "little" spreadsheet - I think I have the place I bought it from listed in it.
http://www.maesco.com/products/racor...ccv_intro.html
http://www.allpointsmarineco.com/view/243/592/
http://www.maesco.com/products/racor...ccv_intro.html
http://www.allpointsmarineco.com/view/243/592/
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Yeah - I think the cheapest ccv4500 I found was $220. I posted the link by editing my previous post. I think you are better off using the one you installed and giving the system time to clear. Even if a little still carry's over you will be OK. Because of the PVC deterioration, I would plan on changing it in a couple of years.
Oh - another reason I went w/ the Racor is the replaceable cartidges. I just did not believe the PVC filter would last forever.
Oh - another reason I went w/ the Racor is the replaceable cartidges. I just did not believe the PVC filter would last forever.
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Say - what size hoses did you run to and from the filter? Also, were you careful not to create any low spots in the hose where you could accumulate a liquid "plug" of oil? In other words, the hose should ALWAYS slope downwards into the filter and then ALWAYS sloe upwards into the intake. No liquid traps.
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I used 5/8" hose to and from the filter. The guy that I bought it from stressed the importance of routing it up and over the brake booster to eliminate any low spots. I then ran it vertical for 2' and 1' parallel to the frame rail where I mounted the assembly. The return hose runs parallel to the other all secured with frame fasteners. If you ask me that is a h*ll of a climb for oil to get back into the intake. I think the 5 years of CCV vapors in the IC cooler is working its way out.
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I think you are fine Joe. I used 3/4 inch also (originally). If you bought it from walknmiracle.com (nchornet), it is the same as mine. I wrote the installation instructions for him to include w/ the filters.