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Old Jul 26, 2009 | 10:23 PM
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No spark!!

I have a 79 ford 460. It has a jacobs coil, mallory ready to run distributor, all factory ford ignition has been taken out. I recently installed a FAST fuel injection system on it. After installing the system, the truck ran fine for a day. I shut it off after a ten mile drive, and it wont start. No spark! I have 12 volts to pos side of coil and 12 volts on neg side, but it does not pulsate when cranking. I replaced the distributor and the coil, and that didnt help. I have power to the distributor and back to the coil. Just wondering if anyone has any sugestions to look at or has had the same problem. Any help would be greatly appriciated. Thanks!
 
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Old Jul 26, 2009 | 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by deanwilliams
It has a jacobs coil, mallory ready to run distributor, all factory ford ignition has been taken out. I recently installed a FAST fuel injection system on it.
What does it have for an ignition module? What's controlling the spark?
 
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Old Jul 26, 2009 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Furyus1
What does it have for an ignition module? What's controlling the spark?
I believe the Mallory Ready-to-Run system can be used without a module.

Dean, how do you have your system wired? Please describe what is connected to what.
 
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 12:14 AM
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You have to run a resistor just like a factory Ford to bring the voltage down for a Mallory Unilite distributor.

I am extremely biased negatively on Mallory crap. I ran a Mallory distributor for 10 years and hated just about every moment of it.

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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 12:05 AM
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Ok ill try to explain how i have the system wired in. I have 12 volts keyed power running to the pos side of coil, then 12 volts going to distributor. Then there is 12 volts going back from the distributor to the neg side of the coil (pulsating for spark). The coil is grounded to neg side of battery along with the distributor also. The battery is grounded to the block. The wire going from the dis to the neg side of the coil should pulse when cranking but it doesnt. The fuel injection system is wired as followed: Power to battery pos and neg. 12 volt keyed power to the computer. The RPM tach module is wired to neg side of battery for ground and neg side of coil for rpm readings. The fuel system seems to be working as it should be i am just not getting any spark. I changed distributors and coils and that didnt help any. The signal going back to the neg coil side is not pulsating. I am confused haha. I have no resistor wired in for the distributor. The second one i tried was an MSD 8350 ready to run which does not need a resistor and it had no change. Any help would be awesome! Thanks!!
 
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by deanwilliams
The coil is grounded to neg side of battery along with the distributor also.
There's your problem. Since you grounded the coil the coil can't work.

The module in the distrubutor (or points or the Duraspark pick-up) is what grounds the coil.

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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 07:16 PM
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Yep. Grounding the coil makes your truck dead as a door nail.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 08:25 PM
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Thanks guys. I think the coil is grounded through the RPM tach module for the fuel injection which is then grounded to the battery negative terminal. The RPM module is grounded to the neg side of battery and the neg side of coil is hooked into this wire. Maybe this is causing my problem. What i dont get is that the truck was running good, i shut it off, then went to start again and no start no spark. I never changed any wiring in that time. I will try that tho when i go home from work to not ground the coil (if it is) to the neg side and see if that helps. Thanks guys for the help!!

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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 08:30 PM
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I am not at home for this week so i am trying to picture the wiring in my head to explain to you guys so you will have to bare with me haha

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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 08:43 PM
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Don't you need a ballast resistor for the mallory unilite? My pontiac 350 has a resistor going to the dist from the coil with no box, I'll get a picture here.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 08:48 PM
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It's the white thing bolted to the firewall.

 
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Not technically since Ford has the resistance wire already dropping the voltage to the coil.

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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 09:14 PM
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i was wondering if i pulled a 302 out of a 1981 mercury capri, and tried to swap motors with my 76 460, would thwe motor mounts from the capri work on the 76 pickup?
 
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 09:19 PM
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Bell housing and motor mounts different, next time make a new thread.
 
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okay i will but thank you
 
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