Notices
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel 2003 - 2007 F250, F350 pickup and F350+ Cab Chassis, 2003 - 2005 Excursion and 2003 - 2009 van

BriteBox installation

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 23, 2016 | 06:52 PM
  #61  
TooManyToys.'s Avatar
TooManyToys.
Hotshot
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 17,824
Likes: 3,104
From: Jersey Shore
It's the DMC open frame with dies that I have now that I looked at your link, along with a couple of others.
 
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2016 | 07:02 PM
  #62  
Yahiko's Avatar
Yahiko
Fleet Owner
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 27,307
Likes: 549
From: Spanaway
What I would like to get is a hydraulic cable crimp tool of my own.
Not one from China. But that would really set the bank back for a while.


To get back on topic. How much did the Bright Box cost?
I really can't see there being much in them.


Sean <BR>

6.0L Tech Folder
 
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2016 | 07:18 PM
  #63  
TooManyToys.'s Avatar
TooManyToys.
Hotshot
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 17,824
Likes: 3,104
From: Jersey Shore
Sean, even when you don't get one from China, it's usually from China.

Those usually sell in the $100 range. I think I made my DIY version for about $25.
 
Reply
Old Apr 24, 2016 | 03:09 AM
  #64  
Yahiko's Avatar
Yahiko
Fleet Owner
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 27,307
Likes: 549
From: Spanaway
I think I had under $10 but that was in 1990 when I first did that.
250 watts blazing down the road on high beams. It used to turn the
yard lights next door off on high beam. You know the little solar things.
I even went so far as to point the lights down so I would not burn out
any eyeballs on low. But anyone stupid enough to flash me had to have
on sunglasses. Low did not go down the road like high did.


Sean <BR>

6.0L Tech Folder
 
Reply
Old Apr 24, 2016 | 12:28 PM
  #65  
mhoefer's Avatar
mhoefer
Postmaster
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,424
Likes: 12
From: BC Canada
Brite box was about 200 bucks to me up here in Canada. To open the BB I think I am going to have to cut it open with a hack saw. It's sealed together pretty tight. Glued I think.
 
Reply
Old Apr 24, 2016 | 12:31 PM
  #66  
TooManyToys.'s Avatar
TooManyToys.
Hotshot
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 17,824
Likes: 3,104
From: Jersey Shore
Mike, since it's not working not much to loose. In a worst case, since it includes all the wires and connectors if you destroy the box you can use those along with relays and circuit breakers to build you own unit.
 
Reply
Old Apr 24, 2016 | 04:04 PM
  #67  
mhoefer's Avatar
mhoefer
Postmaster
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,424
Likes: 12
From: BC Canada
See my Brite box album for pictures pretty sure I just need two relays and a very little bit of soldering to repair it.
 
Reply
Old Apr 24, 2016 | 04:22 PM
  #68  
mhoefer's Avatar
mhoefer
Postmaster
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,424
Likes: 12
From: BC Canada
And a new weather proof box to put it in darn it. I knew i should have looked closer under that tape but then got ahead of myself with the knife.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-2

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-6

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-9

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
Old Apr 24, 2016 | 05:08 PM
  #69  
TooManyToys.'s Avatar
TooManyToys.
Hotshot
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 17,824
Likes: 3,104
From: Jersey Shore
Mike, I've had my relays outside of a box for 15 years. Depending on how many parts you need, Waytek or Parts Express are reasonable. Well, down here they are. I just used standard fog light relays.
 
Reply
Old Apr 24, 2016 | 05:58 PM
  #70  
Yahiko's Avatar
Yahiko
Fleet Owner
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 27,307
Likes: 549
From: Spanaway
Originally Posted by mhoefer
Brite box was about 200 bucks to me up here in Canada. To open the BB I think I am going to have to cut it open with a hack saw. It's sealed together pretty tight. Glued I think.
WOW!
$200 for That >>>

It's so simple just like we were thinking.One would of thought that
there would be a diode for each relay and I don't see one. Nothing
like spiking electronics.

The only thing I can say is someone made a bucket of money a few times over.

Mike, Jack is right about leaving the relays out in the open. You won't hurt them.
You could just glue the box back together with hot glue if you want the logo on it.

One thing I would do is add the diodes to the coils to handle the spike from the
collapsing field in the coils.

I found what looks to be a good description of how this works with drawings too.
Here is where I found that info >>> Do I need a flyback diode with an automotive relay? - Electrical Engineering Stack Exchange

It was linked from this page >>> Why is there a diode connected in parallel to a relay coil? - Electrical Engineering Stack Exchange


Both pages go into the why the diodes are used. One thing I just thought of was I am typing this is if there is a diode in the
Bright Box that I did not see in the 3 photos it could be the problem. Look at the wiring closer for some diodes and disconnect
then so you can test. Use you DMM on the Diode test range. I really just thought of this as I was typing. Funny what comes to the mind as
we are working of other things. Anyway I would take a closer look at the wiring and see if you can spot any diodes.


I am not seeing any diodes and took a quick look at the photos in the full page mode and still did not see any. So maybe my
bright idea is not so bright.



Sean <BR>

6.0L Tech Folder
 
Reply
Old Apr 24, 2016 | 06:20 PM
  #71  
Yahiko's Avatar
Yahiko
Fleet Owner
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 27,307
Likes: 549
From: Spanaway
The 871 relay has a resistor across the coil. I found that from the data sheet.
Looks like the VF4 can have an external resistor if it needed.

I tacked on the data sheets for both relays. Mouser has the one and should really
have both I just did not look for the other one once I found the harder one to find.
Mouser Electronics - Electronic Components Distributor



Sean <BR>

6.0L Tech Folder
 
Reply
Old Apr 24, 2016 | 07:12 PM
  #72  
mhoefer's Avatar
mhoefer
Postmaster
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 4,424
Likes: 12
From: BC Canada
Thanks Yahiko. The data sheet is just what I needed. I could only find the one bigger relay. The 871 I could not find today, but I have a better place to go to on week days that might have it. Based on the number on the relay with the R1 this is the resister relay not the diode version. Would it be better to get the diode version if I can get it? I will print the sheet and bring it with me. I am thinking I will just hang the relays and wiring in the open instead of worrying about the box around it. It's going to be a bit of a trick to wire together, as the bridging wires, but I think I will just modify the ends of th wires with new clip on connectors so the wiring is better and it can be plugged and unplugged.
 
Reply
Old Apr 24, 2016 | 09:23 PM
  #73  
TooManyToys.'s Avatar
TooManyToys.
Hotshot
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 17,824
Likes: 3,104
From: Jersey Shore
I ain't got no stink'n diodes.

Except for the one so both high and low are on at the same time.
 
Reply
Old Apr 25, 2016 | 02:42 AM
  #74  
Yahiko's Avatar
Yahiko
Fleet Owner
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 27,307
Likes: 549
From: Spanaway
Well the fact that the Bright Box did use a resistor on the one relay
telles me that they were thinking about it.

It's all about best practice.
Now when not dealing with a fully electronic control like with the
newer "Smart Junction Box" I think you can get away with it.
But the newer puppy most likely would be unhappy without one.



Sean <BR>

6.0L Tech Folder
 
Reply
Old Apr 25, 2016 | 05:31 AM
  #75  
TooManyToys.'s Avatar
TooManyToys.
Hotshot
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 17,824
Likes: 3,104
From: Jersey Shore
It was more just a joke Sean.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:49 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-1
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-2
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-3
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE