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I hope I don't have to, Mike, but if this slow economy takes my company to deeper n*t-cutting, I may end up doing whatever it takes to keep food on the table and bills paid.
I hope I don't have to, Mike, but if this slow economy takes my company to deeper n*t-cutting, I may end up doing whatever it takes to keep food on the table and bills paid.
I hear ya Pete, times are tough. Nice info to know about DB. If anything does go i,m looking to upgrade, do it right and be done with it, DB will be my choice, hope the bugs are worked out of the units before I purchase mine though.
I expect they've probably already gotten everything purged at this point. As it is, the OP's alternator purchase correlates with the timeline DB gave me perfectly.
As far as I'm concerned, I'll be going with DB for alternators and starters as well. The one Hi-Torque starter on my truck has been running for several months without a single glitch, and I'm thinking I'll be putting one on my new '03 Excursion pretty soon as well, but I'm holding out for now.
I expect they've probably already gotten everything purged at this point. As it is, the OP's alternator purchase correlates with the timeline DB gave me perfectly.
As far as I'm concerned, I'll be going with DB for alternators and starters as well. The one Hi-Torque starter on my truck has been running for several months without a single glitch, and I'm thinking I'll be putting one on my new '03 Excursion pretty soon as well, but I'm holding out for now.
Good to know Pete, when its time, i'll switch out to the DB. Customer service and good word of mouth is a must in my purchasing experiences, hasn't failed me here yet..
I'm keeping my eyes open on this issue, too. I might even do a little investigative work to see what I can discover.
EDIT>>> UPDATE>>>>
I just got off the phone with Robbie at DB Electrical, nad he confirmed what I suspected and what Chase and Costa proposed... about four months ago they got in a batch of bad regulators which they abviously did not discover completely until some of hte alternators hit the streets. Robbie assured me that the problem has been taken care of with their supplier, and that he will continue to take care of any customer issue the way they always have.
This info makes me feel better about continuing to recommend them because they have demonstrated honesty in what happened and also a continued committment to take care of customer needs when things don't work out perfectly.
Bad batches of product will eventually get out with any business, and I'm pleased to have discovered DB's responsiveness.
I'll continue to recommend them.
I upgraded to DB's 135a alternator back in September of last year. I have had similar problems and switched back to the stock one. All is well with it. I haven't had a chance to contact DB for an exchange or refund. I heard about the regulator problems, a few months ago, from another member who went through 3 DB alternators in less than 1 year. His current one is doing well so far. I need to get mine taken care of before the warranty expires.
Here's another option, if y'all are interested. I'm going with one of these when my AutoZoo alt lets go. But so far, so good on mine. Over 2 years on it now.
Thanks, Joe. That's the link I had captured quite a while back but had lost, and when the DB options came up, I had thought that I had just mis-remembered what the first link had looked like. I've heard several others give high reviews for the alternators at the Quick Start link. It's now back in my list again as another excellent option.
Thanks for the feedback. While its nice that DB is sending me a replacement alternator, I am still out the cost of 2 batteries that the alternator killed.
If they knew they had a bad bunch of regulators, they could have contacted me, via my phone and email on file with them, and let me know to have the alternator checked.
That's pro-active customer service. Replacing an alternator that they knew to be suspect, after it fails, and causes more trouble for me does not qualify them for 'exemplary customer service' in my book.
Thanks for the feedback. While its nice that DB is sending me a replacement alternator, I am still out the cost of 2 batteries that the alternator killed.
If they knew they had a bad bunch of regulators, they could have contacted me, via my phone and email on file with them, and let me know to have the alternator checked.
That's pro-active customer service. Replacing an alternator that they knew to be suspect, after it fails, and causes more trouble for me does not qualify them for 'exemplary customer service' in my book.
If that alternator was for an aircraft instead of a truck, they would have done that very thing. Priced an alternator for a plane lately?
I suspect that there's a "business model" in there somewhere, providing ultra-reliable automobile parts and the personalized follow-up contact, but I'd be willing to bet it would be bankrupt within months. Though I prefer high-reliability, I wouldn't pay the extreme premium for it. I suspect even fire departments wouldn't.
Though the alternator allowed your batteries to go flat, how did it "kill" them? If they couldn't take a complete re-charge, there was something else, like time, that killed them.
I believe you're being a bit hard on DB, and no, I have absolutely no interest in them, nor do I use their products.
I think that when mine dies providing I'm near home I will take it off and take it to my local home-town rebuilder and let them rebuild it and put it back on, I don't need anything fancy or expensive as I don't run any high power stuff.
I think that when mine dies providing I'm near home I will take it off and take it to my local home-town rebuilder and let them rebuild it and put it back on, I don't need anything fancy or expensive as I don't run any high power stuff.
If they're any good, you'll most likely end up with a much more reliable unit as a result. The key elements are:
The best lubricant in the best-quality bearings.
A high-quality regulator/brush assembly (and there are some cheap-o's out there).
A well-balanced rotor with good commutator rings.
Diodes, unless you've abused the alternator, don't normally fail, and can be re-used if they check OK.
If the rebuilder pays attention to this stuff, you'll get a good one. Unfortunately, custom rebuilders are becoming like buggy-whip manufacturers.
Most are high-volume shops that use cheap labor and cheap parts. It's why a LOT of the parts-house rebuilds have a considerably-lower MTBF.
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