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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ArdWrknTrk
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Why don't you ask the powertrain call center at 1-800-392-7946?

Get the word and correct p/n from the source.
Whats the powertrain call center? Is it Ford?
 
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by tseekins
http://www.jasperengines.com/gas-engines.php

A jasper engine will never make you sorry you bought it.

Tim
It looks like the repair shop that I use for jobs I don't have the tools or capability of doing is an installer for Jasper. So, I may consider going this route. Do you have a Jasper motor?
 
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 70torino429
nothing against what your saying here, but a 300k mile motor isnt something you see everyday. I for one have not had a factory motor last me more than 200k miles, but i am fairly hard on my stuff, and the fact of the matter is..its only a factory motor once.

With that being said, look at what the police rely on day in and day out, aluminum headed 4.6L motors, and those get run to 300k miles all the time, they have little to no issues. Any nonsense you may or may not have heard about aluminum head reliability is just that, nonsense, the aluminum heads produced in the aftermarket are actually far superior quality to those that ford spits out on the 4.6/5.4 motors. Nothing against it if you want to keep iron heads, but aluminum heads will actually let you run more compression on a lower octane gas btw.

If your not looking for a whole lot more power, than some aftermarket iron heads might be the ticket, but like you said, most crate motors come with aluminum heads now, which isnt necessarily a bad thing, but if your dead set on iron heads..then i guess you wouldnt want that. Just my .02
I know that many do not make it as high as that. Also, I agree that its only a factory motor once. I just think that a stock motor has a better chance for longevity. I don't know though.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by TexasGuy001
It looks like the repair shop that I use for jobs I don't have the tools or capability of doing is an installer for Jasper. So, I may consider going this route. Do you have a Jasper motor?
I have one in my '88. I didn't get it becuase I new what I was doing back then, the repair shop that did the install took care of all that.

I have 100K on the engine now and it purrs like she did the day she was returned to me. My brother in law keeps telling me to mindful of the oil pump as the engine has crested 100K.

Other parts of the truck are becoming a nuisance now, I'm starting to become slightly disenchanted with an old truck that has 200k on the clock.

With all that I've heard and read, jasper engines seem to be the highest quality rebuild that you'll find.

Tim
 
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TexasGuy001
I just think that a stock motor has a better chance for longevity. I don't know though.
Not necessarily.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MisterCMK
First of all, the 302 is a pushrod motor whereas the 5.4 is an OHC motor. Those comparisons are not fair to begin with.

So obviously the GM LSx series motors must be gigantic piles then seeing as they all have aluminum heads. The Hemi also has aluminum heads.
I know that we were not talking about a 5.4.crate

but seeing is believing in person about Fords 100,000 mile tune up with there MOD motors, GM.s LS motor i would take over a 5.4 any day !
 
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 04:42 PM
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If i were you i would upgrade the motor while your doing this , A motor with a mild cam & better heads is going to run better than stock , better milage & will last just as long . I wouldn't spend the money on aluminum heads unless your doing to do some serious building , So do you want stock , better than stock , or fast ???? I like the last one ... Lew
 
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TexasGuy001
Whats the powertrain call center? Is it Ford?
You were involved in the thread I linked to......

BTW, the rebuilder I used offers all different levels of crate motors.
http://www.promarperformanceengines....te_engines.asp
Aluminum heads on the 351W H.O.(of course) to help stave off detonation.

I bought the standard level rebuild 460, and have been happy for a year and a half.
These guys were within 100 miles and delivered that afternoon.
I'm sure there are other reputable rebuilders, and of course national chains like Jasper that take pride in what they do and will stand behind their product.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ArdWrknTrk
You were involved in the thread I linked to......

BTW, the rebuilder I used offers all different levels of crate motors.
http://www.promarperformanceengines....te_engines.asp
Aluminum heads on the 351W H.O.(of course) to help stave off detonation.

I bought the standard level rebuild 460, and have been happy for a year and a half.
These guys were within 100 miles and delivered that afternoon.
I'm sure there are other reputable rebuilders, and of course national chains like Jasper that take pride in what they do and will stand behind their product.
Yeah I know I posted about it a while ago. I said that in my first post. I couldn't find that thread until you mentioned it. The reason I brought the subject up again is just to see what others though and if there were more new opinions.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2009 | 11:21 PM
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The long block is F4TZ6V012CRM from what Ed said before.

The price from Fordtruckpartsguy.com is MSRP $2,000.00 CORE $400.00 PRICE $1,800.00

http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...&siteid=215005

The price from DirectFordParts.com is MSRP 2,000.00 CORE $400.00 PRICE $1,774.50 .

http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...&siteid=214290
 
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 08:25 PM
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Okay, i know this is a thread revival and all.
lol
but..
ATK makes good motors.
this is a link to their performance wing, a 302 300hp, cast iron heads.. etc.. pretty stock replacement for 2k+ Ford 302 Crate Engine 300 HP: High Performance Engines | ATK Custom Built Crate Engines
and they have many otther motors for all power ranges.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 03:32 AM
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Thats cool. Thanks for the link. I'll take a look at what they have.

Has anyone else heard of or used them?
 
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 03:33 AM
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Right now I am leaning toward the Jasper engine with a cam upgrade.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 10:14 PM
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I can speak to the 300 hp 302 ATK reman. I have put 25,000 on their engine with great results. The engine has been flawless and I like the 24 month unlimited miles warranty. I'm running a Edelbrock Performer RPM manifold, 600 cfm Edelbrock carb, MSD full mechanical distributor with 6al box, Carter electric fuel pump. The dyno sheet on the engine from ATK shows 306 hp and 380 fp of torque. My panel is a daily driver, delivers 13.8 mpg around town, 18 on the highway. I will never rebuild another engine. ATK is where I will go again.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 10:23 PM
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Red face Correction

I misstated the torque numbers on the ATK 302. I said 380 fp. I should have said 336.
 
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