New Factory Replacement Engine
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The Mod motor guys 5.4 F-150 Guys waiting till 100,000 miles for a sparkplug change are having there plugs fuze in the heads, My 25 Year Mechanic wont work on then anymore each one he had come in had the Number 4 and number 6 plug fuze in the head (Aluminum Heads) 4 trucks total one was a F-250, Part of the problem is Fords lack of using antiseize on the plugs. Thats why i always tell my frends that got new F-150 is Do a sparkplug change @ 60,000, BTW The new 09 F-1'S Have Aluminum heads.
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Any thoughts on maybe getting a kit from PAW? https://secure.pawengineparts.com/302_327_Ford.html
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Any thoughts on maybe getting a kit from PAW? https://secure.pawengineparts.com/302_327_Ford.html
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The Mod motor guys 5.4 F-150 Guys waiting till 100,000 miles for a sparkplug change are having there plugs fuze in the heads, My 25 Year Mechanic wont work on then anymore each one he had come in had the Number 4 and number 6 plug fuze in the head (Aluminum Heads) 4 trucks total one was a F-250, Part of the problem is Fords lack of using antiseize on the plugs. Thats why i always tell my frends that got new F-150 is Do a sparkplug change @ 60,000, BTW The new 09 F-1'S Have Aluminum heads.
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Any thoughts on maybe getting a kit from PAW? https://secure.pawengineparts.com/302_327_Ford.html
I have pulled motors and stuff before in the Mustang a few times.
I'm not sure though. I really think I would rather have someone else like the dealer install the engine in my truck.
I am going to consider this option though. I'm just concerned that I would do something wrong and then ruin the whole thing.
Have you or do you know anyone that has gone this route?
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The Hot Rod magazines swear by the company. You can get a book from the bookstore or the library "How To Rebuild Your Small-Block Ford"
http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-me...e=UTF8&index=0
Just follow that book and of course you can ask around the forum if you get in a jam. Assembling a kit has got to be easier than pulling an engine, taking everything to be machined, hunting replacement parts, and so on.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-me...e=UTF8&index=0
Just follow that book and of course you can ask around the forum if you get in a jam. Assembling a kit has got to be easier than pulling an engine, taking everything to be machined, hunting replacement parts, and so on.
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Has anyone purchased one of the long blocks from Rock Auto?
1995 FORD F-150 5.0L 302cid V8 MFI (N) : Engine : Long Block Price Core Total
MARSHALL Part # F30217C {Remanufactured {For Extended Warranty Information, See Related Parts}}
OHV, ROLLER, FIRING ORDER 13726548. UPPER PLENUM GASKET NOT SUPPLIED WITH ENGINE.
$1,482.79 $350.00 $1,832.79
Long Block - Warranty
1995 FORD F-150 5.0L 302cid V8 MFI (N) : Engine : Long Block - Warranty Price Core Total
MARSHALL Part # F30217CWARRANTY {Extra Protection Warranty - Please See More Info for Details}
$169.79 $0.00 $169.79
1995 FORD F-150 5.0L 302cid V8 MFI (N) : Engine : Long Block Price Core Total
MARSHALL Part # F30217C {Remanufactured {For Extended Warranty Information, See Related Parts}}
OHV, ROLLER, FIRING ORDER 13726548. UPPER PLENUM GASKET NOT SUPPLIED WITH ENGINE.
$1,482.79 $350.00 $1,832.79
Long Block - Warranty
1995 FORD F-150 5.0L 302cid V8 MFI (N) : Engine : Long Block - Warranty Price Core Total
MARSHALL Part # F30217CWARRANTY {Extra Protection Warranty - Please See More Info for Details}
$169.79 $0.00 $169.79
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$1482 for the long block
$350 for the core (refundable on return of a useable core)
$1832.79 total
$169.79 for the extended warranty
I got my 460 from Promar.
http://www.promarengine.com/
$350 for the core (refundable on return of a useable core)
$1832.79 total
$169.79 for the extended warranty
I got my 460 from Promar.
http://www.promarengine.com/
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Around here the Jasper rebuilt engines are used quite a bit. I know several people that have had them over the years. Especially back several decades when engines did not last a 100,000 miles.The engines generally have a good reputation. I am only 60 miles from Jasper Indiana, where the company headquarters is located.
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I have known a few people that have had 350 chevys that have had aluminum heads and one guy that had a 351 with aluminum heads. They all worked their trucks fairly hard and didn't treat them very nice, so that could have been part of the problem. The motors didn't last long while towing boats and work trailers etc. I think it was because of the excess heat created by towing. They had blown head gaskets and over heated. I always figured it was because of the 2 different types of metals.
I also just think that a higher horse power motor while it would be more fun will not last as many miles. I don't hot rod my truck much at all anyway.
I also just think that a higher horse power motor while it would be more fun will not last as many miles. I don't hot rod my truck much at all anyway.
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I also just thought that keeping the truck mostly stock will help keep the fuel economy good. Also, I have a feeling that if I upgrade the motor then the transmission won't be able to handle it.
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Making the motor more efficient will help your fuel economy.
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TexasGuy, you must have money to burn if you are willing to spend the change to get a Ford motor installed by a dealership. What's that going to cost you, like $5k?
I don't blame you for wanting to avoid the cheap parts store motors. They are junk IMO. But the perception that there are only cheap parts store motors and Ford-built motors is like saying you can only drive a Geo Metro or a BMW. There's lots of good stuff in between.
So here's what you should do. Ask around and find a local engine rebuilder. Visit the shop, talk to the guys, ask for a tour, see what they do and how they do it, talk to them about what you want, and they will build up a motor for you, install it, and give you a warranty. If there are any problems you can take it to them. It will cost less than half what you will end up paying the dealership.
I don't blame you for wanting to avoid the cheap parts store motors. They are junk IMO. But the perception that there are only cheap parts store motors and Ford-built motors is like saying you can only drive a Geo Metro or a BMW. There's lots of good stuff in between.
So here's what you should do. Ask around and find a local engine rebuilder. Visit the shop, talk to the guys, ask for a tour, see what they do and how they do it, talk to them about what you want, and they will build up a motor for you, install it, and give you a warranty. If there are any problems you can take it to them. It will cost less than half what you will end up paying the dealership.