No sales pitch necessary. I think you can agree that the 38R is the turbo all other replacement turbos are judged by. You guys have a nice product, no doubt, but the 38R has been around since 2001 and has an excellent track record with trucks ranging from stock all the way up to 450+ HP.

 

Well, bust my b@lls why don't you!!! I said I think! Maybe it was 13's. Hell I don't know.

 

Thats funny! I am sorry if thats what you think, but definitely not my intention. These turbos are in high demand right now and VERY few people actually have them. As far as tech info goes, here is what I have.

 

Well, I just call them as I see them. Not sure how FEW of them there are, but I know that Riffraff Diesel and Diesel Manor both have them in stock as well, but they aren't pushing them. Plus Riffraff Diesel was giving technical info on page one of the thread. I appreciate that you posted that pdf but as a business owner, I would rather sell my products on their merit first and my sales ability second.

 

LOL.... I will.

 

I am sorry if it seemed like I was pushing it, but like I said, that was definitely not my intention. I have been doing this since 2003 so its not my first rodeo. If you knew me, you would know that I have never pushed a thing in my life. As far as which turbo to go with, it is rather obvious to me. I have owned several 7.3L trucks most of which were outfitted with this turbo and I never had so much as a hiccup.

 

No worries. I agree with you that its the better product for the way he wants to go. I was just frustrated that the thread went the direction it did. The OP had valid questions and it seemed like the sharks smelled money in the water and went in for the kill. You guys need to inform and then sell.

 

Completely understandable. No worries man.

 

Ok, great! Now someone suggested (in an earlier message) that they are planning to go with the H2E. Is the H2E any better? More informaition / suggestions from someone on this one?
Sorry, didn't plan on making this post go for ever, but $2000 is a lot of money to spend, and I want to make sure I choose the best product...

Here is what I found about the H2E:




A new turbocharger system has been developed for high-end horsepower Power Strokes. A 25-40% increase in airflow makes this package a must for 400+ horsepower applications. Exhaust temperature and back pressure are reduced and fuel mileage is improved when compared to the factory turbocharger system. Includes all turbocharger inlet and exhaust piping and hoses for a “factory look.” Exhaust backpressures or "drive pressures" as they are called in the turbocharger business plays a huge role in how much boost an engine can produce before stress on engine components fail. Drive pressure is the amount of pressure required to "drive" a certain amount of boost with a particular turbo. These numbers can usually be derived into a mathematical equation. For instance, a stock 7.3L turbo has a drive pressure approximately of a 2/1 ratio. This means for every 1 lb of boost, it takes 2 lbs of drive pressure to produce this. So, a stock turbo producing 35 lbs of boost can easily produce 70 lbs of drive pressure. The ballbearing turbos on the market estimate about a 1.75/1 ratio. That same truck with 35 lbs of boost will generate about 61.25 lbs of drive pressure. Now, this turbo kit has a drive pressure close to 1/1. That means the same boost levels of 35lbs only produce approximately 35lbs of drive pressure. Your head gaskets and rods are greatly relieved of excess pressure. So, for high boost levels and high HP applications, this turbo is a must for long life of engine components.
All parts are included to complete the installation on your truck. These parts include, intake boots, turbo, custom pedestal, up-pipes, up-pipe flange, gaskets, "Y" intake pipe, turbo to charge air cooler pipe, and down pipe.
Other benefits are;

Easily rebuildable anywhere
Parts can be interchanged for custom configuration
Large enough of a turbo to grow into
Can be used with stock injectors
Absolutely no turbo surge or stall at any load or rpms
Can be upgraded to larger compressor housings, compressor wheels, and exhaust housings should you ever outgrow it

 

If you are going to be willing to go with Hybrids I would definitely look at the H2E. Awesome turbo, very dependable and you won't need to worry about upgrading. Talk to CSIPSD about it as well. He has done alot with these on his truck and can offer you some info.

 

This is a great turbo thread, subscribing..O yea, seen the GTP38R's for as low as 1560.00, or close to that shipped so shop around or wheel and deal..

 

Duck fan,

I have offered him options and opinions, I have nothing to gain from him buying either a GTP38 or Thruster from me. The margins I make on a $100.00 adjustable wastegate are hardly worth the time I have spent on this thrread LOL. I am giving the customer options and offering my opinion... BD rep or diesel enthusiast, it all the same, my opinion!

I am sorry if your opinions are differant than mine but I am not beating you up on yours.

 

I wouldn't limit the h2e turbo to just hybrid injectors. It works well with any injector out there. Cory (Ziggy) is/was running one with stock sticks. He'd be one to talk to. Joe (CSIPSD) runs one with hybrids as Clay pointed out.

Also, they guys at BTS run an h2e with Stage 2's. It's what I'll run when I upgrade. I'd also call Brian or Cale at BTS and talk to them about it and your overall power goals. People often don't realize that they do alot more than just transmissions.

 

Just remember that you start playing with big injectors & an H2E, you'll be needed head studs & maybe fire rings to go along with it. That's about where you start floating the heads off the deck. You start playing over 40psi and you're looking at BIG $$$ upgrades for the block. The H2E is waaay overkill here. Let's be realistic people.

EDIT: Is his even a forged rod engine? LOL... Might want to start there before looking at 60psi turbos. LOL

 

Good point Izzy, trans/converter or clutch upgrade, possibly intercooler etc... there has to be a manufacture out there that offer all that stuff???? LOL