Tranny flush
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Tranny flush
It's service time for my E4OD and last week it got a little warm towing a trailer so I thought instead of the standard filter and fluid change I would check into getting it flushed. I would just like to know a little about the flushing process: how long it takes, what fluid(s) are used to flush it. etc. I'm assuming the tranny stays in the truck during the process- right?? Also, anyone that has had this done know a ballpark figure on cost??
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Nate
1964 F-100 Custom Cab 292 V-8 3 spd
1964 F-100 292 V-8 3 spd
1990 F-150 5.8L
Check out http://clubs.excite.com/f100
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Nate
1964 F-100 Custom Cab 292 V-8 3 spd
1964 F-100 292 V-8 3 spd
1990 F-150 5.8L
Check out http://clubs.excite.com/f100
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I just got off the phone with the GOOD transmission shop here and now I have some additional questions:
1) about the flush- they said that doing this did not remove the sediments from the tranny. Wouldn't a flush include a filter change and would that take care of it all?
2) If I decide to just go with filter/fluid change (again)- any recommendations on filter brands?
3)also, I understand there is an additive often used in these transmissions- and the one this shop recommended was a GM product. Anyone know about this? any info or recommendations on additive? My understanding is that the purpose of it is to prolong the viscosity of the fluid and better protect it from heat breakdown.
Thanks. I think that's all of my questions
Nate
1964 F-100 Custom Cab 292 V-8 3 spd
1964 F-100 292 V-8 3 spd
1990 F-150 5.8L
Check out http://clubs.excite.com/f100
1) about the flush- they said that doing this did not remove the sediments from the tranny. Wouldn't a flush include a filter change and would that take care of it all?
2) If I decide to just go with filter/fluid change (again)- any recommendations on filter brands?
3)also, I understand there is an additive often used in these transmissions- and the one this shop recommended was a GM product. Anyone know about this? any info or recommendations on additive? My understanding is that the purpose of it is to prolong the viscosity of the fluid and better protect it from heat breakdown.
Thanks. I think that's all of my questions
Nate
1964 F-100 Custom Cab 292 V-8 3 spd
1964 F-100 292 V-8 3 spd
1990 F-150 5.8L
Check out http://clubs.excite.com/f100
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I have a 95 F-150 XLT and my tranny is shuddering under load so I need to get it flushed. I dont know anything about the process. A friend of mine told me that his transmission got messed up when it was flushed, and he told me not to get it done. BUt i'm not sure. I got an estimate, its was $270 to get the tranny flushed with 15 fresh quarts of oil and a new filter. It was only $88 to drain the 4 quarts in the pan and change the filter. Hope this helps.
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$88.00and $299.00 were do you live. Its not that hard to change fluid and a filter, just a little messy.Should be able to do it in a hour . As far as a flush, most flushs ive use do get some of the sedimet but not all .Give it a try its not the difficult.
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well, I am not getting the tranny flushed because i bleive it will get out alot of sediment, I am getting it flushed because instead of cherry red fluid, i have dirty brown fluid taht smells bad. so i need the tranny fully flushed, all 15 quarts, not just the 4 in the pan.
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When you drop the pan to change the filter and you have to do this anyway to drain the 4 qts in the pan, get someone to click the starter over while you look for a bolt in the torque converter.As the bolt comes around, unless you are very lucky, it won't completely line up with the access hole but will get close enough for you to get a wrench or socket on the bolt and move it over to get access to the bolt so you can remove it without rounding it out. The bolt is a metric one if I remember correctly and I think the pan bolts are too. Can't really remember. This will drain the converter. I did it in about 2 hours last fall and most of that time was waiting for the fluid to stop dripping. By the way the first filter I bought wasn't the right one so do this in the day so you can exchange it if the parts place goofs up.
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i had my tranny flushed at the ford dealer and it cost 109.00. ( got a deal) they told me it gets out all seiments because they run a solvent thru the tranny for about an hour to get out all contaminents. then they run new fluid thru it untill all solvents are removed. it realy fixed my shuddering problem at the time but it came back after only 3,000 miles they told me that a filter change is not nessesary because the tranny would stop working long before the filter got plugged up. they told me that the ford filters are designed to work at 400% capacity before failuer.
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I'm looking to change my tranny filter/fluid in my 1997 f-150. I know that there is 4 qts in the pain but how many in the convertor? Also, what synthetic fluid would you use? [I really need to do this my next day off]. Please email me at acesqt34(No Email Addresses In Posts!) to let me know. The filter is $15 & Fluid I'm guessing is about $2.00 a qt. The local shop is asking only $70 but I don' think they empty out all of the fluids.
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Most Definately change the filter. Removing the pan is an EASY deal!! My C-6 holds 6 quarts (Pan Only) I have replaced the stock pan with one with a drain plug. (C-6`s only have a `screen` filter).
You will/should get a pan gasket with the filter.
I have NOT put in additives!! I drain the pan every 6 months weather it needs it or not. 12.00 cheap maint
Ive seen the flushing here for 69.00 to 89.00. As Advertized 100% flushed.
I think the addons just fatten up there pockets.
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You will/should get a pan gasket with the filter.
I have NOT put in additives!! I drain the pan every 6 months weather it needs it or not. 12.00 cheap maint
Ive seen the flushing here for 69.00 to 89.00. As Advertized 100% flushed.
I think the addons just fatten up there pockets.
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So, are you saying to just drain the fluid in the pan only? Or should I drain the entire tranny, convertor as well? I have in the past changed the filter in other vehicles by dropping the pan but not the convertor. I see how to do it in the previous post but will a local chain drain "All" the fluid or just the fluid in the pan? I really want to get all of the OEM fluid out and replace it with new synthetic. I guess I need to call and see. Oh, one more thing, what type of fluid would you use? I would like to use synthetic or is that necessary?
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Don't buy that load of crap from the Ford dealership, the tranny filter will clog and overheat your tranny, especially on the E-4OD. Drain the pan and the torque converter and always change your filter and your tranny will work better and last longer. One other thing, if your fluid is brown and smells bad it is burnt. The installation of an external transmission cooler is a must for the AOD and E-4OD. Good luck.
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If there is enough debris in the transmission to clog the filter the transmission is already toast.
I've cut open filters from transmissions with well over 100K miles and they were not even close to being clogged.
Most dealers and many quick lube places can do a complete fluid change. I do not recommend a flush where they put a solvent in the transmission. I would never allow something like that in mine. I can just imagine what that solvent can do in there, and most of it is not good.
A complete fluid change will use up about 19-20 quarts for an E4OD. You use a little more than it holds to be sure and change everything.
It should take a half hour or so, and the transmission does not come out of the truck. The process is to disconnect a cooler line and install a machine in the line. As the old fluid is pumped out the machine replaces it with new fluid.
Mark
I've cut open filters from transmissions with well over 100K miles and they were not even close to being clogged.
Most dealers and many quick lube places can do a complete fluid change. I do not recommend a flush where they put a solvent in the transmission. I would never allow something like that in mine. I can just imagine what that solvent can do in there, and most of it is not good.
A complete fluid change will use up about 19-20 quarts for an E4OD. You use a little more than it holds to be sure and change everything.
It should take a half hour or so, and the transmission does not come out of the truck. The process is to disconnect a cooler line and install a machine in the line. As the old fluid is pumped out the machine replaces it with new fluid.
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I would never run a solvent thru my transmission and when I changed my filter and gasket on my C-6 it was a messy but easy process and I went down to NAPA and picked up a kit to install a drain plug on my C-6 pan it is a cheap kit only runs about $6.00 and when I dropped the pan I noticed there wasn't a magnet in the pan so I broke open a old computer hard drive and took out the magnet and put it in the pan to catch any floating metal debri. the kit is just drill a hole in the pan and braze in the drain plug kit it works great and makes changing the fluid a heck of alot easier. 
