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Hello to all! I own a 2005 6.0 liter psd and was wondering if the bd boost fooler was worth the money? I currently have a bullydog powerpup an intake, and a straight 4" exhaust. It runs ok, but it takes the turbo a little while to spool up, and that irritates me, so I thought this might help. Any opinions welcome.
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Is there any way to fix the vanes, without tearing into the turbo?
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Truthfully on not tearing into the turbo I don't think so other than driving in TOW HAUL will help if its not STUCK. I actually like tow haul it seems a little peppier and I know its doing some thing to help. One of the best things you can do with this motor is to drive the HECK out of it at least once a week. The skinny pedal is FUN!! I love smoking people that say diesels are slow!!!!!!!!!!!
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Boost fooler allows the truck to over fuel in low boost situations. Stock the truck dosent start to fuel till boost rises causing a dead spot in the accelerator. There has been talk of it helping out a stock truck a lot but with most tuners that already compensate the gain will be far less if even needed. It will not cause a headgasket failure as the boost on a stock un tuned truck is low compared to a hot tune.
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When you say it takes awhile for boost to kick in, how are you handling the throttle? Easing into it or are you flooring it?
As to cleaning the turbo, if it is stuck at this point, you're going to have to get in there and take the turbo out and clean it. After that point, check to see if there is play in the shaft, if there isn't, then put it back in and from that point on every few days after it gets to operating temp(and don't go by the stock ECT gauge) romp on it and get the RPMs up and the EGTs up to say 1150 or 1200(this are EGT numbers, not tach numbers) help clean out that buildup in the turbo.
With out much more detail, I can't do much more then just spitball some answers to you, can you give us any more detail about what it is doing and what you are doing etc?
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In all honesty the powerpup and the intake have the potential to do far more damage then the boost fooler. Since you already have a tuner, boost fooler really won't help you out as much as it would for a stock truck.
When you say it takes awhile for boost to kick in, how are you handling the throttle? Easing into it or are you flooring it?
As to cleaning the turbo, if it is stuck at this point, you're going to have to get in there and take the turbo out and clean it. After that point, check to see if there is play in the shaft, if there isn't, then put it back in and from that point on every few days after it gets to operating temp(and don't go by the stock ECT gauge) romp on it and get the RPMs up and the EGTs up to say 1150 or 1200(this are EGT numbers, not tach numbers) help clean out that buildup in the turbo.
With out much more detail, I can't do much more then just spitball some answers to you, can you give us any more detail about what it is doing and what you are doing etc?
When you say it takes awhile for boost to kick in, how are you handling the throttle? Easing into it or are you flooring it?
As to cleaning the turbo, if it is stuck at this point, you're going to have to get in there and take the turbo out and clean it. After that point, check to see if there is play in the shaft, if there isn't, then put it back in and from that point on every few days after it gets to operating temp(and don't go by the stock ECT gauge) romp on it and get the RPMs up and the EGTs up to say 1150 or 1200(this are EGT numbers, not tach numbers) help clean out that buildup in the turbo.
With out much more detail, I can't do much more then just spitball some answers to you, can you give us any more detail about what it is doing and what you are doing etc?
It only does it when I floor it, if I ease into it, it spools up just fine. In regards to the powerpup and intake, I notice hardly anyone on this site runs a bullydog. Are they bad for the 6.0? Thanks for the help!
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As to the intake. There is negligible performance benefit to having one with the 6.0. Most a/m intakes don't flow more air then stock until your truck hits 3,700 rpms. Peak hp and tq is at 3,300 and 2,000 rpms respectively. Now if you got the intake for ease of cleaning and taking on and off then you might have something there, but as far as air flow and filtration, you can't go better then the stock intake.
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Yep, that's what is known as turbo lag. Really the only way to deal with it is to just ease on into the throttle.
I came from the triple dog setup and while it did make fairly good power, the more I know about this stuff, the more I realized it lacked. In order for the "pups" to be shift on the fly and be downloaders, they have to use variable fueling tables, not good. Also, it doesn't properly tune the transmission. Think of it like this, some programs that you put onto your computer you have to restart the computer in order for the program to take. Very similar here. Which means that by very definition, shift on the fly cannot fully tune your engine or transmission because you don't have to shut the truck down to finish the tuning process.
As to the intake. There is negligible performance benefit to having one with the 6.0. Most a/m intakes don't flow more air then stock until your truck hits 3,700 rpms. Peak hp and tq is at 3,300 and 2,000 rpms respectively. Now if you got the intake for ease of cleaning and taking on and off then you might have something there, but as far as air flow and filtration, you can't go better then the stock intake.
I came from the triple dog setup and while it did make fairly good power, the more I know about this stuff, the more I realized it lacked. In order for the "pups" to be shift on the fly and be downloaders, they have to use variable fueling tables, not good. Also, it doesn't properly tune the transmission. Think of it like this, some programs that you put onto your computer you have to restart the computer in order for the program to take. Very similar here. Which means that by very definition, shift on the fly cannot fully tune your engine or transmission because you don't have to shut the truck down to finish the tuning process.
As to the intake. There is negligible performance benefit to having one with the 6.0. Most a/m intakes don't flow more air then stock until your truck hits 3,700 rpms. Peak hp and tq is at 3,300 and 2,000 rpms respectively. Now if you got the intake for ease of cleaning and taking on and off then you might have something there, but as far as air flow and filtration, you can't go better then the stock intake.
I see you are running the Spartan. How much better is it than a bullydog? I have been looking at them, but don't want to drop 1200.00 bucks on something that's not worth it. I don't have to worry about the tranny because mine is a manual.
As for the intake, my main cause was for ease of maintaince.
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Hello to all! I own a 2005 6.0 liter psd and was wondering if the bd boost fooler was worth the money? I currently have a bullydog powerpup an intake, and a straight 4" exhaust. It runs ok, but it takes the turbo a little while to spool up, and that irritates me, so I thought this might help. Any opinions welcome.
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Hello to all! I own a 2005 6.0 liter psd and was wondering if the bd boost fooler was worth the money? I currently have a bullydog powerpup an intake, and a straight 4" exhaust. It runs ok, but it takes the turbo a little while to spool up, and that irritates me, so I thought this might help. Any opinions welcome.
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What does one of these boost foolers cost. You can modify you own boost sensor for $1. I have done few on some detroit 60s engines. You just install a small resistor on the ground wire of .boost sensor. this will change voltage signal feed back to ecm. I have added as much as 50 ohm resistor. and reports to engine about 1.5 psi at idle. boy definately makes difference on accel from idle. and these particular sensor have a maximum range of boost pressure so it will not overboost. the sensor tops out at 28 psi on this particular engine.not sure what range of 6.0 sensor is im going to test mine this weekend. i would not recomend going more than 1 psi pressure at idle. most sensors allow .5 psi variance befor they will cause fault in engine for boost pressure. just have to try it and see.something similiar should work on these engines also. just need scan tool that shows boost pressure with koeo. i do believe these read in absoulute pressure. in hg. any way just idea.
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