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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 11:21 AM
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boost fooler??

does any know how to do the boost fooler mod on a 2005 6.0??? i heard it was a resistor or diode not realy sure....ive ben looking for threads on this but couldnt find any...
 
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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BD Diesel make a Electronic Boost Builder. It fools the map senser of excessive boost. Not sure if this is it.

* http://www.dieselperformance.com/ind...duct/index/60P
 
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 01:29 PM
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Yes that is the BD Boost Fooler/Builder

Here is a previous THREAD

Let me know if you have any questions that thread did not answer.

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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 03:56 PM
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There is no need for a boost fooler on the 6.0. Proper tuning of electronics mitigates the need for this. 7.3s I believe still needed this along these lines(boost annihilator I believe the popular version was called), however, 6.0s really don't need it.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2009 | 07:02 PM
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the last thread i read about this the guys stated it was a somewhat noticeable difference with custom tuning. no one had dynoed a sct custom tune though. if i recall the statement was that the boost fooler help to reduce the initial turbo lag on some of the innovative tunes. im running the hybrid race file from spartan and it has very little if any turbo lag.
 
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Old May 1, 2009 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by tex25025
There is no need for a boost fooler on the 6.0. Proper tuning of electronics mitigates the need for this. 7.3s I believe still needed this along these lines(boost annihilator I believe the popular version was called), however, 6.0s really don't need it.
I have to disagree with ya here, the boost builder can be one of the best mods for under $200.00 to help out with bottom end performance.

The 6.0L has a dead spot on hard acceleration, basically the ECM will not allow fuel until its sees boost, it does this to prevent black smoke on acceleration. Personally I would rather have a little black smoke and have my truck respond to throttle input... especially when accelerating onto an interstate.

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Old May 1, 2009 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by dave at BD Power
I have to disagree with ya here, the boost builder can be one of the best mods for under $200.00 to help out with bottom end performance.
Of course you would say that, your selling the product. While that in of itself doesn't mean that your wrong in your what you say, I just have to weigh that in there as well.


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The 6.0L has a dead spot on hard acceleration, basically the ECM will not allow fuel until its sees boost, it does this to prevent black smoke on acceleration. Personally I would rather have a little black smoke and have my truck respond to throttle input... especially when accelerating onto an interstate.
That's right, it has to do with EPA limits, however, that is mitigated with custom tuning as custom tuners(the people) do not have to be so conservative in their approach with their tunes. I have experiance with 3 turbos on my truck and I've had very negligible lag with my stock one, 03 I had almost nil and the 64mm non-vgt I have a little, but none that are an issue with streetable that would make me thing I would need a boost fooler.

You overfuel enough with a tune, then you don't need a boost fooler. Most people(51% or more) want to overfuel than not.
 
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Old May 1, 2009 | 12:15 PM
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I make $22 on the sale, cost me more wages to type this than the potential profit here. If my intent was profit, I would be pushing fixed vane Turbo Upgrades and Head studs. I am here to help not turn a profit, if you have been around and followed my post... and I see you have been with your post count, you will see that I help first.... and sell second!

Boost Fooling has been around for ever, normally it is associated with de-fueling on the top end not the bottom end. The 6.0L has a unique issue that de-fuels on the top end and bottom end which IMO creates a safety issue.

Like you said most tuners will address the top end de-fueling but if a tuner that installs through the OBD and has no physical connection to the sensor how can it control the bottom end de-fueling?

Either way... my response was in regards to your comments that "it is not needed" it is not yours or my job to tell these guys what is needed or not needed for their trucks. All we can do is provide the information they are asking for so they make their own decision.... agreed
 
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Old May 1, 2009 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dave at BD Power
Like you said most tuners will address the top end de-fueling but if a tuner that installs through the OBD and has no physical connection to the sensor how can it control the bottom end de-fueling?
That was good that you added that, otherwise I would have had an example that would address bottom end. You wouldn't believe what has been hooked up and where on my truck.


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Either way... my response was in regards to your comments that "it is not needed" it is not yours or my job to tell these guys what is needed or not needed for their trucks. All we can do is provide the information they are asking for so they make their own decision.... agreed
Actually I can agree on that(which is not a small thing, particularly getting me to agree on things, I'm the lovable pain the *** member).
 
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For the guys who do not have custom tuning it is an alternative method. I never have turbo lag...
 
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Old May 1, 2009 | 06:26 PM
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I have custom tunes on my truck. It fuels pretty hard in the bottom end(lots of smoke), but still has a second of lag(much better then stock). Do you think this will help with lag on my set up even though it already heavy on the fuel?

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Old May 1, 2009 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 04redstroker
I have custom tunes on my truck. It fuels pretty hard in the bottom end(lots of smoke), but still has a second of lag(much better then stock). Do you think this will help with lag on my set up even though it already heavy on the fuel?

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Absolutely it will help... guaranteed!

I will personally return it for you within 30 days if it does not. In exchange for you comments on how good it worked on this thread!

Have a great weekend guys
 
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Old May 1, 2009 | 06:38 PM
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I'll be out of town all next week, but i may give you a call when i get back in town.
 
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Old May 1, 2009 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 04redstroker
I have custom tunes on my truck. It fuels pretty hard in the bottom end(lots of smoke), but still has a second of lag(much better then stock). Do you think this will help with lag on my set up even though it already heavy on the fuel?

Thanx

Do you roll into the throttle or do you just stomp on it? If you don't roll into it, try that first and see if that helps with that last bit of lag.
 
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Old May 2, 2009 | 09:34 AM
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lol, wish I would've got in on this sooner, here ya go, heres my thread that someone mentioned... https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...installed.html

I should get a kickback for pushing this product... hint hint dave!
 
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