I think I'm done.
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I think I'm done.
I got my motor all hooked up, then spent 6 hours chasing a problem with the fuel pumps. I started the motor and had no oil pressure...needless to say I am furious. Right now I'm thinking I'll just part out my truck and go looking for a 95-97 PSD. I've always wanted a PSD, and if I'm going to suffer this much it should at least be for something I truly want.
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O-$#!^ that sucks, but don't panic yet, it could be something as simple as a pickup tube, Been there done that...
Did you manually prime the motor first?
(ie: turn the oil pump with a drill)
Is the oil pan and pickup original and originally together?
I don't know the oil path in the Ford blocks so I don't really have any indepth diagnostics steps for you.
If you assembled the motor ... Think ... Think, It might come to you where the issue is.
Sorry, I know how demoralizing that can be after all that work!
As I stated, Been there, Done That!
-Enjoy
fh : )_~
Did you manually prime the motor first?
(ie: turn the oil pump with a drill)
Is the oil pan and pickup original and originally together?
I don't know the oil path in the Ford blocks so I don't really have any indepth diagnostics steps for you.
If you assembled the motor ... Think ... Think, It might come to you where the issue is.
Sorry, I know how demoralizing that can be after all that work!
As I stated, Been there, Done That!
-Enjoy
fh : )_~
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The motor was rebuilt when I got it with about 5k miles. I heard/saw it run and it had oil pressure. All I did was change the cam and gears and all the gaskets. I did prime it and saw oil move through the nylon line for the gauge, but not when it runs. I get no reading on the mechanical gauge or the dash gauge. I can hear the motor clacking(which was suprising at 2k rpm with my exhaust) so I know it's got no pressure.
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remote kits have check valves in 'em to keep the filter from emptying out back into the
oil pan, so oil won't necessarily flow in the other direction.
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The motor was rebuilt when I got it with about 5k miles. I heard/saw it run and it had oil pressure. All I did was change the cam and gears and all the gaskets. I did prime it and saw oil move through the nylon line for the gauge, but not when it runs. I get no reading on the mechanical gauge or the dash gauge. I can hear the motor clacking(which was suprising at 2k rpm with my exhaust) so I know it's got no pressure.
ck and make sure the shaft for the pump didnt come out when ya pulled the primer out (and I know goes with out saying is there enought oil Ive done it too) but dont be a quiter
it took me 7 months to put my f150 back on the road only to have it noe shiftting right but it will cause now its going to a shop to have them look at my rebuilt on the tranny and see what I did wrong or didnt do just rember quitting is for quiters and we are FORD OWERS WE DONT QUIT LIKE CHEVY OWERS DO
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Considering it ran before and had oil pressure, I would have to agree on the dizzy shaft or the remote filter kit you installed.
The dizzy is a quick check, and I would just put a filter on the motor and see if it gets pressure then.
Once you've got it running well, you could hook the remote filter back up and see what happens.
The dizzy is a quick check, and I would just put a filter on the motor and see if it gets pressure then.
Once you've got it running well, you could hook the remote filter back up and see what happens.
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I agree. It should be one of the easier problems to solve. Start by removing any add on filter systems and installing a spin on filter. Prefill it with oil so you don't have to wait to pack the filter once it starts cranking. If you remove all the spark plugs you can crank the motor easy without puting a strain on anything until it makes oil pressure.
If that doesn't work, check the dist. gear as suggested. If no luck, drop the pan and check the screen on the pump pickup tube. Having gone that far, I would change out the oil pump.
You left out a lot of information. Like what engine you are talking about, whether or not it has some aftermarket high performance oil pump and links to any previous threads about your motor build. The title "I think I'm done" doesn't do anybody any good. More desciptive thread titles with complete information gets you more views and replys. Plus it helps someone else who is searching for help with the same problem.
If that doesn't work, check the dist. gear as suggested. If no luck, drop the pan and check the screen on the pump pickup tube. Having gone that far, I would change out the oil pump.
You left out a lot of information. Like what engine you are talking about, whether or not it has some aftermarket high performance oil pump and links to any previous threads about your motor build. The title "I think I'm done" doesn't do anybody any good. More desciptive thread titles with complete information gets you more views and replys. Plus it helps someone else who is searching for help with the same problem.
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I agree with the others. Don't give up, Stang. I would pull the distributor and check the oil pump drive shaft. Make sure it is OK. I would then do all of my testing with an electric drill driving the oil pump. Until you find the problem, you don't want to keep starting the engine dry. You may trash something before you finally get the problem solved. Ditch the external oil filter, like others said. You know the engine ran and had oil pressure before, so it has to be something simple.
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He's Ford Tough, He won't give up!
IIRC he has to use the remote filter because the stock location filter hits cross member. (I may be wrong)
I also agree with the drill to pump it up, don't set there and crank it or fire it up until you are certain there is oil all the way to the top, both sides... (ie: at the rockers)
(should always be done anyway)
In a Ford can the oil pump drive shaft fall to the pan, or at least far enough out of the way you could get the distributer in if the shaft is not in place??
My bet is it's something stupid simple.
-Enjoy
fh : )_~
IIRC he has to use the remote filter because the stock location filter hits cross member. (I may be wrong)
I also agree with the drill to pump it up, don't set there and crank it or fire it up until you are certain there is oil all the way to the top, both sides... (ie: at the rockers)
(should always be done anyway)
In a Ford can the oil pump drive shaft fall to the pan, or at least far enough out of the way you could get the distributer in if the shaft is not in place??
My bet is it's something stupid simple.
-Enjoy
fh : )_~
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All that work on your truck, don't give in. I been down that road on my Bronco2 with the infamous A4ld tranny. It ran only for a week then crapped out. 7 months later I finaly pulled it and found out I messed up putting the tranny oil pump gear in backwards. Go find a chevy pickup and take you fustration on on it(thats what I did hehe)!
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From: patricia ab canada
hey calm down bud.have a brew and relax for a while.i know it gets frustrating.get back at it a little later.i was at the dump today and my fuel pump crapped out,i was furious as well,ready to tell the guy in the loader to push her into the pile.i calmed down managed to get it running some what.limped it home,replaced the pump PITA,all's well.i would have regretted junking my truck,i just had to calm down.DON'T DO SOME TING YOU WILL REGRET you have an great looking truck,i love the way that thing looks,you will get it figured out,as you well know there is a ton of great guys here who will help you get her going.B.P.
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I double checked the remote hoses and they are correct. The filter was full of oil so I know it's getting around, just not as fast as it needs to. I did clean the pickup screen, which wasn't terribly dirty to begin with. The shaft is in place, I can see it when I remove the distributor. I even tried running it with a drill again. The pump seems to turn awfully easythough as I can spin it by hand and after I spin it a bit, it starts spinning backwards on it's own. My main concern is what are the chances of me having ruined the cam(or anything else for that matter) letting it run at 2k for a few minutes with no oil pressure. I have cashed in some bonds so I can start looking for another truck, but will think on it this weekend. I'm just really demotivated and have no interest in pulling the motor out again right now. I'm also not sure how much longer I have before I get an HOA letter about a non-running vehicle.
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Two reasons I dont think I could sell it.
1) It's built from so many different trucks, I would have to include a list of what applications to look up for replacement parts. It would be an even bigger headache for a new owner making it difficult to sell at all.
2)I would be taking off a lot of stuff to put on my new truck.
It would just seem more logical to part it out.
1) It's built from so many different trucks, I would have to include a list of what applications to look up for replacement parts. It would be an even bigger headache for a new owner making it difficult to sell at all.
2)I would be taking off a lot of stuff to put on my new truck.
It would just seem more logical to part it out.